other than john doar, it might not have worked. i mean, it's not easy to tell people who have come this way to risk their lives, you know, sit your heels for a week. and a lot of them, you know, the first nuns they defied, the catholic all to come from all over this place. and they stayed a week behind. what was the sheriff, clark and the police chief in selma put up a rope outside brown chapel there that they couldn't march, and they called it the berlin wall. and and all these nuns and all these people who had come from all over the all over the country, stayed there until the federal government, in its good time, arranged through the courts and through the federal government, that when they finally did march all the way from selma to montgomery, all they had federal escorts, they had army helicopters or an they made that march through lyons county, 54 miles. and and arrive. so, yeah, the civil rights movement is a profound interaction between all the branches of government, between law, politics and pulpit and and selma is a is

but john doar was there with james. meredith was there and jackson and was all the time in the most dangerous places, working with people who were accustomed to working with the department of justice, talking with people, getting the fbi to do the right thing, which was really really difficult. and i hope we'll get into that at one point. yes thank you. yeah. okay. so you didn't point out that robert ran my 86 campaign. yeah, actually i did not know that. yeah, well, that's a little detail. we don't advertise a lot. he doesn't want to, but. there are some secrets he to keep. i'm also number one. let's get back to. let's go. let's go back to this with the documentary crew. so you remember that. yes. yes so daddy allowed the documentary film crew to come into our house. there are a lot of pictures of our house. and then he allowed them to come to the justice department. and what is interesting about and i have to give a credit to my sister so you can see daddy with about five children in his arms when he's talking to robe