number one in the police sketch, but they still have not identified john doe number two. >> john e number two, if the fbi can't find him, does he exist? >> fbi chief louis bree sent this message, there is no place on earth where you will be safe. >> the michigan address on mcveigh's driver's license is the home of a man named james nickels. it's a critical development. nickels brother terry has been close friend s with mcveigh since they served together in the army. like mcveigh, nickles is known to harbor anti-government views. >> nickles days before the blast took out a new insurance policy on his pickup truck. >> an arrest warrant is quickly issued and later that same day nickles turns himself in. by now, the rescue operation at the murrah building has become a recovery effort. >> authorities in this building behind me are coming across more bodies. >> the search for bodies will last for two full weeks. >> most of the survivors wanted to go to most of the funerals, and that's tough going to 16 funerals, let me tell you. that was really hard, but we needed to do it. >> two women

john: what does the phrase even mean? i am for social justice. >> right. ple it does not mean anything. it just means socialism. there is a real meaning. course of institutions that you expect other people to live by. john: laws, property rights, family rules come anything like that, one of the tests of those institutions should be that you expect when people live and abide by them attend to produce good consequences for everybody. you can show whether you care about this by asking a question like this. imagine that marxists were right. imagine there were a disaster, they left the overall majority of people destitute. would you still advocate markets? i think most libertarians would say i would at least have some reservations. the fact that they work matters in the justification. if you think that the new advocate whether you know not what philosophers are calling the social justice. john: i'm rand said that do not consider charity a major virtue. selfish. >> what she means is not what most people mean. even if she thinks that i don't think she speaks for m

john: what does the phrase even mean? i am for social justice. >> right. there is a real meaning. course of institutions that you expect other people to live by. john: laws, property rights, family rules come anything like that, one of the tests of those institutions should be that you expect when people live and abide by them attend to produce good consequences for everybody. you can show whether you care about this by asking a question like this. imagine that marxists were right. imagine there were a disaster, they left the overall majority of peoe destitute. would you still advocate markets? i think most libertarians would say i would at least have some reservations. the fact that they work matters in the justification. if you think that the new advocate whether you know not what philosophers are calling the social justice. john: i'm rand said that do not nsider charity a major virtue. selfish. >> what she means is not what most people mean. even if she thinks that i don't think she speaks for most people most are humane, they give to charity, the care t

all of my albums could be called whatever, john doe. it does not matter the name on it.id not exist before. sometimes i have fun with how it is resented or recorded or whatever. but all that matters to me is making something that did not exist. >> so what has changed? >> my ability to do things i could not do when i was younger. i used to think, you know, if i had a record label it would be nice to be able to do this and this. now i have one and we can to a set like this. i think dean feels the same way from his standpoint. if you are able to make something exists that did not, you are really connecting with the entire human race. you are giving to them. you are not taking. >> was it inevitable you would always be solo? >> i don't know. maybe i was always solo. that was the beginning of the freedom, to be allowed to be an artist like that. painters had been able to do it before. >> this decision, you made to go solo. >> i don't think anybody who thrives on creativity, you are not looking to put yourself in a place where somebody else does you what to do. you are looking

[laughter] john: factor is evangeline auctioneddoff 60 edward to raise money for homeless kids. we have picture. this doesnot to be real. john: by the cyprus played strip poker to raise money. [laughter] wait for the question to raise money for the children's charity? kennedy got a right. we made that up. it sounded so real. since president obama islam ising gets 8 miles per gallon ed begley, jr. started a petition to trade in the limousine for the electric version? >> a great idea. you are wrong. mary tyler moore tried to pay a restaurant $1,000 to free one of the lobsters. yes. a really happened. a lobster name despite. >> he was delicious by the way. john: and actor who has a and web site about environmentally, costabile tennis shoes. u are right to. the sneakers have seeds imbedded in their tom suggests buried them to watch the flowers bloom. what is wrong with that? >> it is a great ideas. >> every betty on the show entourage is known for their intellect. john: alyssa made a sexual tape for the conflict of syria. >> absolutely true. we can play some of it here. >> nobody cares. [laughter] >> our nati

john: the idea of sharing, communal property. it does lead to what economists call the tragedy of the comic. the tragedy because nasty things happen when everyone on something. i first heard that phrase and a story about some shepherds who live around a grassy area they call the commons. of the shepherds shared this fr green grass and they grab as much as possible. captain breeding sheep. many more to raise. soon all the grass was gone. the sheep died. the shepherd said nothing. so then they debt divided it into parcels. now each one owned one. each had an incentive to limit the number that grazed on his grass. prosperity happened. everyone lives happily ever after. okay. is not quite that simple, but we should think about this today on thanksgiving. this week school children were taught, it's a day of sharing. pilgrims and indians shared the fruits of the harvest, but that misses the point. most of their teachers don't even know. thanks to sharing the programs almost starved. george mason university economist brush roberts as the real t

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you can color in his mustache, kids, like john stossel does.ide cover states it's a fare and objective review of this real life superhero. like their tribute to ted cruz 24-hour obama care filibuster. they say cruz is clairvoyant and americans believe obama care is less than any war. at least american soldiers have weapons to defend themselves. so true, why aren't americans allowed to shoot their doctors anymore. plus this book has fun activities like connect the dots. i am only half way through. i'm pretty sure it's a t-rex. so really big coloring books, great job. i hope you create more conservative theme kids activities and themes. like connect hillary to ben >> stephen: welcome back e everybody. my guest is a celebrated cartoonist. whose "alpha house" is streaming on amazon. he must draw fast. welcome garry trudeau. [cheers and applause] >> stephen: good to see you, garry. nice to see you again. >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas. stephen: i didn't know how liberal you were? >> i say it. stephen: now everyone knows you as the pulitzer p

somebody that has a name, john doe, whatever, a common name, then a physical person in virginia stateolice has to go in there and that's where they use place of birth, hair color, weight, all the identifying features and separate you from that person. and that can sometimes take a little time. it can take five minutes. it can take two hours. it can take a couple days. >> you're looking for recreational? >> going to try to improve my skills a little bit. never know when we might get invaded or something by china. i'm arming myself against all enemies, foreign and domestic. who, i cannot tell you because it hadn't happened. but if it happens, i'm going to be ready. >> yeah. dylan was approved. easy as that, he was able to walk out the door with his brand-new weapon, a gun capable of shooting up to 40 rounds of ammunition per minute. >> zombie bullets. >> you can use them on anything, not just zombies. >> i have to say, i'm a little conflicted. should it be that easy for someone to get a gun? dylan didn't have to undergo a mental health assessment before he purchased his weapon or view a

that john kerry does. democrats innd this country deeply value it. it should not be defined by this one instance. responsehe ferocity of suggests that there is a fragility in the relationship? >> we don't want to see either side escalate this right now. we want to get to the facts of what happened in new york. --ing sure that both guys sides don't have a cascading problem. india and the united states can work together in afghanistan. india has invested over 2 billion there. the u.s. and india and pakistan should be working more closely together for peace. >> emagin iran. not so much to help the united states, but to help themselves move toward the legacy of nonproliferation issues. and they are economic issues. we can create more jobs in america by exporting more to america. we want to make sure people respect the law when they live and we have an important policy of treating people with respect and dignity. and we need to make sure we get to the bottom of this right away. >> is washington doing enough to quiet the row? three years ago, the women of

that john kerry does. democrats innd this country deeply value it. it should not be defined by this one instance. responsehe ferocity of suggests that there is a fragility in the relationship? >> we don't want to see either side escalate this right now. we want to get to the facts of what happened in new york. --ing sure that both guys sides don't have a cascading problem. india and the united states can work together in afghanistan. india has invested over 2 billion there. the u.s. and india and pakistan should be working more closely together for peace. >> emagin iran. not so much to help the united states, but to help themselves move toward the legacy of nonproliferation issues. and they are economic issues. we can create more jobs in america by exporting more to america. we want to make sure people respect the law when they live and we have an important policy of treating people with respect and dignity. and we need to make sure we get to the bottom of this right away. >> is washington doing enough to quiet the row? three years ago, the women of

we talk about in the book in one of the great things john does is he writes about stents. two guys had a good idea and no money. i happen to know and i didn't know he was doing it at the time a guy named -- invested $250,000 and that gave him enough to get a patent and he sold it to johnson & johnson johnson & johnson. it saved millions of lives. the initiative and incentive for them to do that and make it happen didn't come from the government. they put it together themselves and now under obamacare is we are going to tax the makings of devices. they pay taxes on every profit they make like everybody else but this is a new tax imposed on medical devices. i think that is one of the dumbest ideas i have heard and i feel very strongly about it. literally i'm mocking proof of how great and how innovative our health care system has been. i can't imagine anything worse. i'm sure i can but i think it's an example of how ill-conceived parts of this program are. >> thank you. we will go now to the audience for questions. we have people with microphones and shelby go here? you have

we talk about in the book in one of the great things john does is he writes about stents. two guys had a good idea and no money. i happen to know and i didn't know he was doing it at the time a guy named -- invested $250,000 and that gave him enough to get a patent and he sold it to johnson & johnson johnson & johnson. it saved millions of lives. the initiative and incentive for them to do that and make it happen didn't come from the government. they put it together themselves and now under obamacare is we are going to tax the makings of devices. they pay taxes on every profit they make like everybody else but this is a new tax imposed on medical devices. i think that is one of the dumbest ideas i have heard and i feel very strongly about it. literally i'm mocking proof of how great and how innovative our health care system has been. i can't imagine anything worse. i'm sure i can but i think it's an example of how ill-conceived parts of this program are. >> thank you. we will go now to the audience for questions. we have people with microphones and shelby go here? you have

we're a better country than this. >> so, john, what does the budget have to do with the speech the president gave today? >> well, the president has two goals. one -- the first is do no harm to the economy and if they can get a budget deal, avoid a shut down, that would meet the goal but longer term he has more protective things, raise the minimum wage and spend on education and he may not get those out of this congress but what he's hoping to do is plow the ground for future years, maybe future presidents to make progress on the priorities. >> i'm sure it will create heated debate. thanks for the update, john harwood from washington. >>> still ahead, how safe is your pension whether you work for a city, state or private company? >>> the price of oil moved higher for the fourth session in a row. crude prices up today more than a dollar closing at a five-week high. >>> meanwhile, opec oil meeting today decided to keep production quotas unchanged. the decision comes despite a new burst of oil production in the u.s. and the possible return of iran's oil to the market. steve has more. >> reporter

republican house speaker john boehner does not agree with the senate's comprehensive legislation, nor does a key senator, republican marco rubio of florida, even though he is one of the architects of the senate legislation six months ago. mr. rubio now favors a more incremental approach, rather than the mammoth overhaul of the gang of eight bill. his spokesman says the senator is being pragmatic, quote, senator rubio worked very hard on immigration reform and we successfully passed it in the senate. but now we're dealing with the political reality of what's achievable in the house. unquote. senator rubio bailed on the gang of eight, correct? >> next year i'm not in favor, but if they took out the dream act as a small part of it and tried to run that through alone, they might have a fighting chance. >> the president has put together a plan as we know. >> one of the things we should do is raise the number of h1v visas which are given to graduate students in the hard sciences and engineering. we have a tremendous shortage of those people. . >> the republican party has buried rubio alive

. >> john, what does that do to our economy? >> it's going to hurt our economy.ook, this isn't free. we keep saying everyone gets single payer magical health insurance, it isn't free. it's going to cost people a lot of money, especially transition period. imagine what we're doing. we've got a business that is broke, that's health care. you've got fraud, inefficiencies, and you're sticking 50 million more people into that business and making them customers and saying that's going to fix it? no, it's not going to fix it. it's going to exacerbate the fractures and make things worse. we are only arguing over who is paying, and that's the tail and not the dog. >> that's going to be the last word. thanks, guys. >>> lawmakers patting themselves on the back for passing a budget, but neil and the gang are saying not so fast. what's tucked inside it could have you paying up for those patdowns. that set the bottom of the hour, but up here first. major winter storms slamming the u.s. and with just ten shopping days to go before christmas, will this wicked weather be the grin

john: he does call himself an anarchist but he considers himself moving the discussion for word and younnot shovel e toothpaste back in the course. john: you're trying to -- back in the course? >> and try to keep it clean. >> just assume they're coming for you. >> we have cops sitting outside my apartment i know that we are being surveiled. >> you will n be surpsed ife goes to prison doing whatever he can to stay within the lot. hn: why would he go to prison? >> guns are bad and they will makeew laws to make sure whenever he is doing is illegal. john: how innovation and lets us even on their own little phone. find out right here have government john: my biggest fear for america they will spend as broke grabbing more than $3 trillionvery year we can barely keep track of what they spend. can they he us here? says yes says adam that started a web site called open the books.com it is our miion to post online every time tax and spend at the federal, state, and local level. >> in 2006 there was an act that said this stuff has to be up there. and we got together on this bid legislation that is

it doesn't matter to me, you know, all my albums could be called, you know, whatever john doe, it doesn'td to make something that didn't exist before. sometimes i have fun with the design of how it is weren'ted and how it is put on display or how it is recorded or whatever. but at the all that really matters to me making something that didn't exist. >> rose: so what's changed. >> what has changed is my ability to do things that i couldn't do when i was younger. i used to think you know well, if i had a record label it would be nice to be able to do this, this, and this. well now i have one and we can make a set like this that maybe nobody would have done this, maybe they would have 20 years from now. i have no idea. i feel the same way from his standpoint. if you get to a spot where you are able to make something exist that didn't exist before, are you really connecting with the entire human race. you are giving to them. you're not taking. >> rose: was it inevitable that you would be solo? >> i don't know. i don't know-- maybe i've always been solo, you know. maybe, you know, we talked ab

beginning of his time in the senate, and it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to eat, and john does have an enormous amount of expertise as having been a former chief of staff, and the areas he cares a lot about our energy and climate change, and just his role as senior advisor, i think he has a tremendous reputation around the country, and he was in the commission with me after the president's first election, and we welcome him to the team. he is going to be terrific. >> and what can you do with the environment and climate change with executive order in the coming year that will not require congressional -- >> well, we are going to look at it will series of steps, and i want to disclose to you what we are looking at, and what we will be looking at john to come up with new ideas, as part of what we have to do is each they come in and say, ok, what is our approach going to be today? this is the hand we are dealt, and let's try to move the agenda forward with what we have and shuffle the deck and bring in some new folks. one person you may know is back, and he has already in just 1.5

i drive down that massachusetts avenue like john king does, donna brazil does every day.ee that statue and i see the construction going on there. and i think of the history of south africa. and it is a wonderful tribute that donna, a quick time thought. >> no question about it. i think mr. mandela would want to us gather at that statue to remember his long journey. >> if you look at capitals around the world, there are divisions. some violent, some political. what a lesson this man was of the power of dignity and grace. & and mr. ambassador, thank you for joining us. we'll be with you next wednesday. we'll be watching what's happening in south africa over the next ten days of mourning. nelson man dadela has passed aw. thank you for watching our special situation room coverage of the passing of nelson mandela. much more coming up right now on erin burnett "outfront" with jake tapper filling in. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good evening. you're watching erin burnett "outfront." we're following the news story of nelson mandela, the first black president of south

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and saw this amazing birdcage in an antique store, and the woman said, that was john wayne's birdcage. i thought, how does she know that? i always thought -- that is how the story involved. it becomes about the wonder of children, which is another thing harkening to what we were speaking of before. are we in danger of destroying that for them with all the technology that is available to them? that idea of imagination and discovery and wonder, you know? that's a little story. tavis: have jessica lange' daughters given it a passing grade? >> i think so. i think they are tickled and don't really know what to think