what john does not want to get rid of them.untry where unions have long been accepted as an essential part of the system. where the labour party controlled by the unions is one of the two great political parties. where railroad engineers and longshoremen work together and for 30 years, they have had social security, even more extensive than our own. about the lords , do not think they got jobs because of -- they got them because they were the best man for the jobs, just as the former labor leader and now member of the war cabinet, and an errand boy that is now the minister of home security, got there important jobs because they were the best men for them. service,hings on the urface, differ. but the important things, do not. this gentleman never bothered about the troops. and when john britain started carrying the war to germany, they used a line. narrator: ok, we will take a look. here is the british empire. here is where the germans were going after britain declared war. does that look like trying to save the empire? germany

narrator: but if such a case were called in john doe -- great britain -- >> the king versus john doe.e same thing. today, the king is a symbol of the people. the british are great fans of buckingham palace, but when they sing god save the king, they are not worrying about his health. bless the british people. and the dukes and girls -- earls, people took away the power of the lord's. dukes and earls do not run the country anymore. today there are only two people who do that, john britain and his wife. as mr. to the polls just and mrs. john q public do here and elect their representatives to the house of commons. and they fix the taxes and make the laws. and if they want to get rid of their representatives, they can at any time vote them out of existence. but john doesn't want to get rid of them, so he confuses us by keeping dukes and earls in a country where unions have long been accepted as a democratic system where the labour party , controlled by the unions is one of the two great political parties. where longshoremen and railroad engineers have been ministers of the time. and for

obama didn't stop his vacation to visit the flood ravaged state was in a governor john a governor john doe edward says that was his call. ms. police offer sheriff deputies tuesday troopers and other essential resources and assets to providing security for the president while they we're needed in this region. world turkey's president now blaming a 12 or 14-year-old for the suicide bombing at a wedding party on saturday the president says the young bomber was license militants 51 people killed dozens others are recovering from injury tonight the attackers near the syrian border and is the deadliest attack and turkey so far. coming up later and sports game two of the preseason and the broncos season is in the books by the week off on last license the inspiring story of a 93-year-old world war ii veteran by literally been running across the country for the past few years. the latest flood of warm days will be cut short by another cold front ten arriving take you through the ups to the ups and the family favorite. yoplait. well done champ. get gooey, flaky, happy. broncos game to the preseason

the unidentified infant was named baby john doe and barry. fast-forward to 2014 the sheriff's department put all of >> they gave detectives information on who they thought put the baby under the bridge i thought the information that we got was very credible, given how it came to us and who it came to us from. >> reporter: detective 93 paulson was assigned the baby john doe case two years ago. >> it is emotional, if you think about the circumstances of the case, you know, this baby was left for dead. >> one tip has led police to a person of interest. >> we're aware of -- that the person of in this area still. >> reporter: on thursday the baby's body will be exhumed for dna testing. >> dna evidence wasn't available back then. dna evidence is now available. so that will play a major role in this investigation. >> reporter: the dna will be sent to the university of north texas. no word when the results will come back. >>> caught on camera, a holy hold-up in arkansas. pastor accused of robbing a convenience store. you can see on the surveillance c

. >> tell the story of the john doe investigation. >> this is in the book the irs scandal is showing how many americans that it affected to have their voices silenced to have 30 conservatives who were very supportive of government reform. then you have a very liberal district attorney with the secret probe into these books that was called the john doe statute. so to issue the secrets to all of these organizations he gives the e-mail, phone records, financial records, as tracking those connections they show up in the dark and this is happening in wisconsin one of the worst stories in the book is they show one of the targets with charitable fund-raising trip. they will not let him call an attorney, they ransack the house to tell him you are under a gag order if you tell anybody so these are the tactics that were used. by the way the ending of the story is important because o'keeffe was one that was targeted and we put that off the abuse. and with the wisconsin supreme court. in india and there was a great line. and then to paraphrase the special prosecutor has a engaged in the theories

i came to discover a wonderful guy, let's call him john doe, the caterer -- >> seth: the caterer johnke. he apparently had, you know, contracted bed bugs. and -- >> seth: i didn't realize a person could contract it. i thought you had to be a bed. [ light laughter ] >> and this was a hell of a guy. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> i think what happened is he was sort of sleeping in his food trailer, and it was a very low budget movie. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> so we discovered that this was happening because not only was nobody eating the food, but also they were -- he came to set in an orange hazmat suit. >> seth: oh, so you don't want to see -- >> that's a dead giveaway. >> seth: you don't want to see the guy cooking your food in a hazmat suit. >> no. [ light laughter ] >> seth: ever. >> well, and also i guess he had left his trailer and started staying at the motel where a lot of the crew was saying, with which they didn't like because he was washing all the dishes in the shower. >> seth: okay, so this is a bad guy to be a caterer. >> yeah. >> seth: so as a producer, do you feel

narrator: but if such a case were called in britain -- >> the king versus john doe.e same thing. today, the king is a symbol of the people. the british are great fans of buckingham palace, but when they sing god save the king, they are not worrying about his health. maybe, god bless the british people. and the dukes and earls, people took away the power of the lords. dukes and earls do not run the country anymore. today there are only two people who do that, john britain and his wife. they go to the polls just as mr. and mrs. john q. public do here and elect their representatives to the house of commons. and they fix the taxes and make the laws. and if they want to get rid of their representatives, they can at any time vote them out of existence. but john doesn't want to get rid of them, so he confuses us by keeping dukes and earls in a country where unions have long been accepted as a democratic system, where the labour party controlled by the unions is one of the two great political parties, where longshoremen and railroad engineers have been ministers of the time.

reid, you and dave check out john doe blake and i will head to the u.s. marshals. ssas hotchner and blake. bob tilghman. thank you for coming. i got my whole team on this. any leads yet? well, the wreck happened out on the middle of nowhere . somewhere within a 12-mile radius of the accident site. you think he's moving on foot in this heat? well, it'll kill you under the best conditions. he stole some supplies, but not enough to hole up too long. so you can expect him to be active tonight. well, where can we set up? right in here. passing any coffee by chance? i just started a pot. we got his picture plastered everywhere. but if he's hiding, he's hiding. it's gonna be awful hard to weed him out. >> mark: it is not uncommon for teachers to spend their own money to make sure their students have school supplies they need. >> vanessa: some even create gofundme pages to raised money, but nearly 100 math teachers got a surprise about their funding requests were all covered been an unexpected donation. blair miller has more on how it happened and the impact it's having. >

i don't agree with everything that john mccain does but i tell you what, he's an american hero, just like bob dole was and to attack them -- and he's in your same party. to attack them and say he's some type of -- he's not an american hero and to put that out to the american psyche, is that where we want to go with this country? is that the type of message that the gop wants their presidential

john: what does that mean? i don't trust trump or clinton. hillary as we all know lies about lots of things. >> she is crooked hillary. is this is one of the most crooked politicians in history. john: she may be but dona trump has hardly been one of the most decent businessmen. he used politics to rip off people. >> he bragged by the. atlantic city was a good cash cow for me for a long time. that tells you all you need to know about donald trump. it 7 not about how much he can build, it's how much he can take. john: i won't vote for neither hillary clinton or donald trump. they got ahead through political connections. trump profited by giving money to both political parties. hillary became famous because her husband was president. mark mekler is upset about it. >> we have an extraordinary situation in our politics. donald trump paid money to the system. he admits he gave money to politicians of both parties to profit in his business. doing political favors. that's what he was admitting he was getting. then you have hillary and bill clinton who

he can do this because wisconsin had a lot called the john doe statute so he issues a secret subpoena he gets the e-mail and phone records and financial records. to track those connections in the pre-dawn raid day show up in the dark this is happening in wisconsin and? one of the worse stories is a shot at the house of one of the targets. . . decided to defy this order and it came to "the wall street journal" where i worked. we blew the lid off of this abuse happening. then a lawsuit was happening and it went to the supreme court and they shut down. at the end there was a great line and it's in the book and i was going to paraphrase the special prosecutor in the case because at some point it was taken over by a special prosecutor. they've engaged in the theory is a wall to go after citizens who are entirely innocent of any wrongdoing. think about that statement and that is the supreme court saying you abuse your power and harassed people saying this is what happens to you if you keep playing the election. you will have to spend thousands on legal fees because you decided to speak out.

john: does he want three debates or does he want fewer? wants to negotiate the debate schedule on the best terms possible for himself. he feels he was influential negotiating during the primaries and plans to do that here. he doesn't feel like he should be up against the world series or any other nature televised event. he -- the baby was crying and he stopped midsentence and said he loved the baby and went on in the moment you are, he said get that baby out of here. it was clear he was joking. mark: did the baby leave? guest: i was there and it was definitely a joke. guest: sometimes his jokes don't translate to television. only candidate who making fun ofk kicking a baby. next. and danjohn dickerson balls when we come back. ♪ mark: we have to clinical heavyweights joining us. on one screen, dan balls and here in our studio, the host of "face the nation", john dickerson. he has a new book out called "whistle stop, my favorite stories from presidential campaign history. days newst with the -- it's common to say something happen with donald

in 2013, the family learned there would be no criminal charges following a john doe investigation. safran says the lawsuit could reopen that case as well. if that leads to more information that would lead to the possibility of the district attorney reviewing this case again for potential criminal charges, we would be more than willing and more than wanting to for that to happen. the lawsuit does not specify how much the family wants in damages but it does request injury, pain and suffering, as well as funeral and burial costs. a statement from the county's interim corporation counsel says "we cannot comment on open legal matters, other than to say we take all allegations very seriously." a sheboygan falls mother... charged today with killing her two-year-old child. police arrested katlyn kinateder thursday... after officers found the boys lifeless body inside her home on woodview avenue. fox6s madeline anderson is live at the sheboygan county courthouse with m kinateder faces two felony charges... first degree intentional homicide and moving-hiding-burying a corpse of a child. last

. >> host: talk about the john doe investigation and. >> it is disturbing because how broad and wide in khomeini it affected tens of thousands had their voices silenced the during the 2010 and 2012 election. in wisconsin it is scary the power and abusive brought. and there were very supportive of governor scott walker during the whole legal fight. then a very liberal district attorney who launched a secret probe into the books that was called the john doe statute so to issue the secret subpoenas to all of these organizations and their phone records in these connections they have with each other they show up in the dark and this is happening there shot that the house of one of the targets their teenage son is home alone. they do not let him call an attorney, his grandparents who lived down the road they ransacked the house and they tell the kids you are under a gag order if you tell anyone what happened this morning you can even tell the school or white or light then you'll go to jail. said the is a tactics used by the way the current the ending of this story is very important because

in 2013, the family learned there would be no criminal charges following a john doe investigation. the lawsuit does not specify how much the family wants in damages. in a statement-- the county's counsel says they cannot discuss ongoing legal matters. coming up -- several appliance stores are closing their doors for good in wisconsin. more on the store latest on the young boy killed after riding a water slide. what officials say he died from - next. and three children are injured after falling from a ferris wheel ride in tennessee. how it all happened - we are still under the control of an area of high pressure today but the high is now farther to the east and we start getting warmer and more clouds this morning but otherwise well see mostly sunny conditions. highs will get into the mid 80s but it will be a bit cooler lakeside. we warm again wednesday and get more humid with one more day of high pressure. then the cold front moves in for thursday. ahead of that front we get to near 90 thursday followed by storms. behind the front, we start to cool. well still be above average frida

in 2013, the family learned there would be no criminal charges following a john doe investigation. safran says the lawsuit could reopen that case as well. if that leads to more information that would lead to the possibility of the district attorney reviewing this case again for potential criminal charges, we would be more than willing and more than wanting to for that to happen. the lawsuit does not specify how much the family wants in damages but it does request

john doe natured his kidney to welcome to the show. what a great story. how long have you guys worked together? >> 20 something years. >> 20 something years. so you obviously were not feeling well to the point that you needed a kidney. >> i was on dialysis for almost a year, and john said i want to donate a kidney. >> that's a big decision. how did you come knocked down from dialysis and him not being himself, i went to his wife anne and i said what do i need to do about getting tested? let's step up to the plate and see what we can do. >> we go to the testing part. you need to be a match, right? >> yes. >> that had to be incredible done? >> december 12th. >> >> sorry, december 8. >> by the 12th, you are feeling better. on your end of it, what is it like to go through this? >> the pain wasn't nothing compared to having my friend. you can't put a price on life and there are no accidentals. >> these are great approximatic churrs. -- pictures. did you immediately feel better once you got through the procedure? >> oh, everything worked real well. everything w

in 2013, the family learned there would be no criminal charges following a john doe investigation. 3 years later-- they still want answers. how he injured his neck. the lawsuit does not specify how much the family wants in damages. in a statement-- the county's counsel says they cannot discuss ongoing legal matters. get ready for more humidity. today wasn't bad-- but the next few days are only going to worse. weather expert tom wachs joins us from the weather deck tonight with the details. thanks to the high pressure we've had inpl couple of days, we'll stay mostly clear and quiet tonight. lows will be warm and comfortable in the upper 60s. heading into tuesday, we'll see a slow warming trend, with highs closer to 84. humidity will also steadily increase, although we'll stay mostly sunny through wednesday. wednesday and thursday will be the hottest days of the week, as our highs jump back to the upper 80s. heat indicies will feel like the 90s. storm chances return thursday through saturday. we should dry out clear. low: 68 dewpoint: 63 wind: se 3-8 mph tuesday: mostly sunny. high: 84

in 2013, the family learned there would be no criminal charges following a john doe investigation. safran says the blunt force trauma later found in johnsons neck is proof high-level staff members at the complex were fatally negligent. brandon may have been left with a spinal cord injury, but certainly, we believe he certainly wouldnt have suffered the death, and certainly the way his death occurred by laying there unattended, immobile for three days, no one should have to deal much the family wants in damages but it does request compensation for physical injury, pain and suffering, as well as funeral and burial costs. a statement from the county's interim corporation counsel says "we cannot on open legal matters, other than to say we take all allegations very seriously." it's time for your news and weather together. the dodge county sheriff's office has identified the man shot and killed by officers saturday in beaver dam. officials say they were called to old james quee-lee quealy because he was making suicidal statements.after a two-hour standoff -- the man fired a shot at a dep

a john doe investigation was conducted after johnson's death, but it produced no crimiinal charges.today's civil rights lawsuit names two psychiatrists, a staff doctor, a nurse practicioner, an insurance company and milwaukee county as a whole as defendants. watch for more on start turning. the dodge county sheriff's office has identified the man who was shot and killed by a deputy last week. his name was james quealy, he was 59-years old and a resident of beaver dam. on friday --- police officers and sheriff's deputies responded to his home after he made suicidal threats. the man told them he wanted to commit suicide by cop. and after several hour of negotiations...he fired. officers returned fire and quealy was killed. the wisconsin department of delta airlines is flying again, but that's not going to help all the passengers who were temporarily grounded today. today."this is pretty bad. it's the worst i've ever seen i" it." steve kent spoke with cbs 58 this morning about trying to get back home to wilmington, north carolina. he, like many other travelers...were stuck waiting in lines at

he is is able to do this because wisconsin has a very oddball, they did that call the john doe statute which allows you to conduct a secret investigation. he issues the secret subpoenas to all of these organizations and individuals. he get their email, their phone records, records, he is going to their financial records, his tracking all of these connections i have with each other. he does predawn raids. they show up in the dark at the house of some of the targets. this is happening in wisconsin. one of the worst stories in the book is they show up at the house of one of the targets. he had his wife were on the charitable fundraising trip. their teenage son is home alone. they come in, they put him in a room, they will not let him call an attorney, they will not let him call his grandparents who lived down the road. they ransacked the house, take things often until this kid as they leave, you are under a gag order and if you tell anybody what happened to hear this morning, you cannot even tell the school what happened to, why you are late right now, if now, if you tell anyone you can g

the person had a proper burial which in this case baby john doe, did. but the environment also plays a role. 3 "the factors are going to be climate, there's not going to be that rapid of decomposition. how moist the climate is, how long it's been buried."and while 26 years sounds like a lot relatively speaking it's not "we have done dna tests on bodies that have been unidentified for decades, literally decades." there's no time frame on how long dna extraction will take. but kenosha deputies are optimistic it will lead to a break in the case."ultimately we hope to have charges against the person who of course left an infant under a bridge." 3 kenosha deputies tell us once the d-n-a has been collected and the examination is complete... the plan is to return the baby to st. john's c. cemetery.for more on this the specialized lab go to our website cbs 58 dot com.click this "uncovering the truth" story. ---jessica? 3 now to news from around the nation.. making news around the nation...for the first time in the u.s.---- doctors say... a virus.the death happe

john does have a large support here. he got 85% of the primary vote you can and tell he has a lot of support because there pass this very large t that is now up here for the second time. on staten island, news4 new york. >> thank you. we have been telling you for the past week about a man making threats over a new york city police radio. it appears another bogus call came in causing officers to act and act quickly. >> officer down. officer down. 56-12. officer down. in sunset park, brooklyn, in full forceful they had a suspicion the call might be fake. as witnesses explained, they were taking no chances. >> he said can you let me in? open up the door. 25 cop cars here. 25. they are running up the stairs. running up. climbing up fire escapes. jumping from roof to roof. come back down. not a thing. there they're all standing looking up at the roof. >> the first calls came in radio and threatened a sergeant who he says put him in jail. police have not said if they believe this is the same man. >>> still ahead, your safety i

you hired this john doe, hazmat suit wearing -- >> yeah. i am a new yorker. what do i care, bed bugs? >> seth: right, exactly. >> you know what i mean? >> seth: you probably had bed bugs a hundred times in your life. >> at least. i have them right now. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, a lot of people in new york you have to have them as roommates to help share the rent. >> yes. yes you do. [ light laughter ] yeah. where did all the bed bugs go? >> seth: i don't know. >> remember how high stakes bed bugs were like a week ago? >> seth: i feel like four years ago everybody was talking about bed bugs. and then the bed bugs went away. you know what happened, the zika mosquitoes ate them. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: that's a problem because every time a thing goes away you go, oh, everything is better, the bed bugs are gone. it's not. it's a worse bug came. yeah, that's what happened. >> nobody is talking about ebola anymore. >> seth: that's true. good for us. can i is ask you a question about your co-star chloe sevigny? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: she was in the c

. >> the other man of fitch identified himself as john doe and sayke i he has nothing to do with the dru di and prostitutio, his game is chess. >> you are a chess plaan,gr3 crashed. >> yes. >> i see what you did there, that's very goxa. >> athe oo not to nine there isa problem in the park, the nypd telling me their narcotics diompsion may 32 ao today. they have stepped up their patrols in the park due to comeonlain mor and that is evidt here today. my business. i see i donopl see, here i donol hear, it's not my business. >> aside from those that to make tha br park home for at least a couple of hours for a nap under the sun, i do not personally see any bon lik, crackheadke i or hookers. but in a new york minute, anything can hb.ype& h and everbushing ca washington square park, as always, park, as alwayke i if yu see something, say something. [ bell rings ] oh, hey, jamie, can you hang back a sec? ?? you wanna tell me about the boy in this painting? i dunno...maybe nobody understands him. well, if he were here, i'd say that being different is what makes him special. just like our disc

. >> host: kimberly, tell the story of eric ot and the john doe investigation in wisconsin. >> guest: this is in the book. i think the irs scandal is really disturbing because of how broad it was, how wide and how many americans affected, tens of thousands of americans had voices somewhat silence during the 2010 and 2012 elections. wisconsin is scary for the power and the abuse that was brought against these groups so what you have is, you have about 30 conservative grassroots organizations who were very supportive of governor scott walker's reforms during that whole recall fight that happened in wisconsin. you then have a very liberal district attorney in milwaukee who launches a secret probe into these groups and he's able to do this because wisconsin has an odd law that it did call the john doe statute which allows you to conduct a secret investigation so this is a secret subpoena to all these organizations and individuals. he gets their internet email, get their phone records, these going through their financial records, going through everything. these tracking this connection may

john, donald trump is trying to work this into the news. does this have any political relevance whatsoever? john: no. mike: i agree. john: in terms of this mattering to anybody out there in america who is determining who the next president should be, and it does not matter. mike: we will move on. john: ok, everything colin kaepernick related. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ john: there are few events in the annals of american politics, where people will not forget where they were. when man landed on the mood, when barack obama was elected, and when colin kaepernick refused to stand during the national anthem. touching up, here is what he said about his protest about the treatment of african-americans, when the press asked if the elections played into this. >> it was not something that was planned, but i think the two presidential candidates that we have also represent the issues that we have in this country right now. i mean, you have hillary, who has called black teens or black kids super predators. you have donald trump who is racist. we have a presidential c

the parents of they are listed in the lawsuit as jane and john doe. they requested a judge reveal their names arguing that they are using the media to attack the schools from behind a cloak of anonymity will. >> -- a person was wanted in a crash. this is route one. we are waiting to learn the condition of the person who was hurt. turn officials will host a >> hundreds were found dead and injured on the property. they want to host a meeting once the investigation is wrapped up, but they say that could take several weeks. officials there say there are plenty of questions and concerns that need to be addressed. >> they are asking for the public's help in finding a bank robber. >> he is wanted in connection with the unarmed robbery of the bank at 1150 washington street. back on august 3rd, passed a note demanding money and he made off with an undisclosed amount of cash. another loss for bill cosby to tell you about. his efforts to reseal his deposition testimony about affairs and prescription sedatives. the appeal was moot because the contents are a matte

. >> the victim's parents are and john doe. the school requested, arguing they are anonymously using the media to attack the school. some advocates says that could deter others from coming forward. >> the state supreme court releasing a ruling today. the court saying the measure violates the intent of previously passed laws. no word yet from the governor's action which had pushed for the tariff to increase availability of natural gas. >> it is a debate nationwide and happening here in massachusetts. tonight, police are among the first in the state to wear those body cameras on duty. >> sarah takes a look at the impact the program has on the police department and the community. sarah: police officers are carrying a new piece of equipment. body cameras now clipped on to all 46 patrol officers. >> we can actually show the public what we're dealing with department-wide in may. they were first tested in a pilot program last year. eight officers volunteered to wear them. >> the union needs to get involved and say this is what we want

he'll make america great again while >> announcer: live from cleveland's news center, driven by john doe -- don joseph toyota in kent. this is cleveland 19. >> harry: a rare flash flood emergency is declared if parts of emergency. areas of kansas city this weekend. the water is slowly coming down, but more rain is expected tomorrow. >>> a live look right now at the cleveland 19 news first alert radar. we continue to track possible pop-up thunderstorms. beth mcleod updates the forecast in just a few minutes. >>> police have made two arrests in chicago for the deadly shooting friday of nba star dwyane wade's cousin. two brothers are in custody facing murder charges. and police call both career nykea aldridge was shot and killed pushing a stroller. police say she was a bystander and not the intended target. >>> now a cleveland 19 news consumer alert. general motors is recalling nearly 368,000 vehicles. the recall is for a 2013 chevrolet equinox and gmc terrain. a defective part could prevent the windshield wipers from working. call your local dealer with any questions. >>> the weekend may b

the right date of birth they cannot send him to the medical examiner he doesn't want him to go to john doe so he goes back mitt to the photo to properly identify so he can go to the hospital as who he really was. he sits back and leaseback in any year speed dial. he said he called his son like a good distance between double homicide with drugs but my kids could die in a fire. but i watched a lot of good police work and i was fortunate anybody would understand it dash 25 to choose from and watched the police work. and that was powerful to see. not even local. it without any idea -- in the identification. everybody has a different motivation. i can say the exact quotation because booktv is your best every other word was expletive crackhead. he was killed by the handyman here with addict. if he was so angry about it. it isn't worth it. so there humor it was fun. and dell came across as kerry and smart and decent people i usually don't read from a book they initially let people ask questions but there was one particular for the scene in the book that they were talking about facebook. >> rememb

john: does he want three debates or does he want fewer?negotiate the debate schedule on the best terms possible for himself. he feels he was able to have an influence negotiating during the primaries, and plans do that here. he does not think you should be up against nfl games of the world series or any other major competing televised event. john: you keep the baby out of his of it today. how to go over with the crowd? >> he was joking. the baby was crying and he stopped midsentence that he loved babies and that he went on in a moment later he said, if get that baby out of here. it was clear he was joking. mark: did the baby leave? >> no, the baby state. >> i was there. it was definitely a joke or >> sometimes those jokes do not translate to television, but that was very clearly just colorful. john: donald trump is the only candidate i have ever known of that would even risk making fun of it baby. up next, we have john dickerson with abc news, the washington post and dan balls when we come back. ♪ ♪ we have political heavyweights. on one s

john: she is. barack obama has said she is not good. charlie: what does that mean? esn't like the ebb and flow of the drama? john: when you watch bill clinton give a speech -- obama used to talk about it at the jazz performance where there is a call and response. there is a reading of the room, and then there is preacher mode, and then professor mode. joining in the enthusiasm for politics -- everything i heard from hillary clinton, she gets enjoyment talking about policy, talking about the stuff you don't talk about at a rally so much. and the rally stuff is, and that political commerce is more difficult for her. it does not give her the joy, talking about policies would. you can say this because listen to her talk about them. look at the depth of her policies. we don't have that in political campaigns much. a lot of campaigns don't go to that level. charlie: how do you measure her convention speech? b, b-? john: by hillary clinton standards, it was probably b+. maybe a-. it was not -- she had a tough set of acts to follow. charlie: she had a certain presence in the