the chamber ceiling collapsed on people in a cold mine john doe 5 was one of only 2 survivors john doe 3 was living in the mine area on his motorbike loaded with 3 bags of cobbled he was hit by a large cobbled transport truck and his leg was amputated after 2 weeks of working john doe well never was severely injured he was 14 years old when he was grassed in the mine well the families and children are seeking compensation for forced labor negligence and emotional distress some more say claim to they suffered serious injuries while crawling through tunnels or carrying heavy loads as we saw saskia taylor has more on the story. how far would you go to make your fortune hire a child a child kill a child these are the questions the world's most famous tech giants will be in court as part of the landmark legal case that's off to a human rights organization allege that complicit in the injury and deaths of hundreds if not thousands of children in the democratic republic of congo all to feed the wallets insatiable appetite for the very latest gadgets defendants ample google will microsoft tesl

the chamber ceiling collapsed on people in a coal mine john doe 5 was one of only 2 survivors john doe 3 was living in the mine area on his motorbike loaded with 3 bags of cobbled he was hit by a large global transport truck and his leg was amputated after 2 weeks of working john doe will never there was severely injured he was 14 years old when he was rushed into mine. the families and injured children are seeking compensation for forced labor negligence and emotional distress some also claim they suffered serious injuries walk crawling through tunnels or carrying heavy loads are to taylor has more on this. we're now actually going to take a break from that story to go back to our top story a lot of reporting is giving his annual conference so we're going to listen in now to see what he's been speaking on now it's going to. be very. soon contradictions between the information received from moscow and from berlin that's why i would like to ask you 1st of all. regarding the murder of a cause of it turns out. the informal germany says that they didn't receive relevant information from ru

5 was one of only 2 survivors john doe 3 was living in the mine area on his motorbike loaded with 3 bags of called he was hit by a large global transport truck and his leg was amputated after 2 weeks of working john doe whenever there was severely injured he was 14 years old when he was rushed in to mind the families and the injured children are seeking compensation for forced labor negligence and emotional distress some also claim they suffered serious injuries or crawling through tunnels or carrying heavy loads artist ask a teller has more. how far would you go to make your fortune hire a child a child kill a child these are the questions the world's most famous tech giants will be onscreen in court as part of a lot of legal case that's off to a human rights organization allege that complicit in the injury and deaths of hundreds if not thousands of children in the democratic republic of congo all to feed the wild insatiable appetite for the very latest gadgets defendants ample google bill microsoft tesla are knowingly benefiting from aiding and abetting the cruel and brutal use

5 was one of only 2 survivors john doe 3 was living in the mine on his motorbike loaded with 3 bags of called he was hit by a large global transport truck and his leg was amputated after 2 weeks of working john doe whenever there was severely injured he was 14 years old when he was crushed in the mine. the families and injured children are seeking compensation for forced labor negligence and emotional distress some also claim they suffered serious injuries while crawling through tunnels or carrying having loads artist ask a teller has more. how far would you go to make your fortune hire a child harm a child kill a child these are the questions the world's most famous tech giants will be onscreen in court as part of a landmark legal case that's after human rights organization allege that complicit in the injury and deaths of hundreds if not thousands of children in the democratic republic of congo all to feed the wild insatiable appetite for the very latest gadgets defendants ample google del microsoft tesla are knowingly benefiting from and aiding and abetting the cruel and brutal.

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and just like that, john doe had a name. and a whole remarkable life. >> our victim we identified as steven bailey williams. >> reporter: steven bailey williams, better known to his friends, family, and fans as steven b. >> all hit 96 kpke, friday morning with the bird and the b. >> reporter: a dj with a distinctive voice and personality that had made him famous in the 1980s as part of the hit denver-based radio show "steven b and the hawk." >> say, step over here and say a few words to the radio people around the country. >> well, i think we can keep this short and simple. get a real job. >> he was really at his professional zenith in denver. >> reporter: doug johnson and steven were friends for more than 30 years. they were the guys that really pioneered two-man morning radio. they were funny. they were great writers. they were great comedians. >> we've been over here at kpke for about what? a hundred years? >> uh, well, let's see it was 18 --. it was about 90-some years. >> tempus fugit when you're having a good time. >>

john doe 17 is joey. >> i was kind of a happy child. i was an artist. i went to a catholic grammar school. i got straight as. >> when did they change? >> we were going to play pool and the priest who was the vice principal sat at the bench and said shoot. i shot the ball. i said it's your turn. and i looked at him and he was sitting there masturbating. and i remember i turned all red and started sweating. the hair on my neck was standing up. and i just stood there frozen. i didn't know what to do. and he said keep playing i want to watch you. and then i turned around and the head of the boys club, brother sal. was watching this. and he just stood there watching. he did nothing. >> joey drew to cope with the abuse. his pictures becoming more vivid and violent. mirroring the nightmare he was living. nightmare that only got worse. >> this went on for about a year and a half. and then one day he cornered me on the stairs and started molesting me. and told me get upstairs to the all purpose room. on the third floor of the school. and he dragged me into the r

only a little bit did not bid all 9 of us lived near the beach john doe so many tonight when i think about the children i get very sad i only managed to save one little girl that i never saw the of as again when i got back at my house was destroyed. i can die and now shares her home with the one granddaughter she rescued and her small child. the waters forced their way some one and a half kilometers inland the town of power in sri lanka's south was worst affected thousands of children were among the victims as i'm going to as i'm his help many survivors back then he was the only psychiatrist in the worst affected area of southern sri lanka he treated adults and children alike. children as you know will have a huge amount of france in the atlas and they have got the thing that's trying to come out of these things and that depends on the adults around them. if the adults don't send control and come but then still being with the problems the children's anxiety and stress it's much much less. after the tsunami sri lankan psychiatrist formed a network with the help of the world health org

nobody really is just sitting on the fact that what if these boys are innocent john does wrong when they're alive they're not like afro mussarat your life is forever. rather you get found innocent whether you get found guilty whether it's a mistrial of dismissal whatever it is your life is for ever growing yes we never even got a ticket that i'm old now the 1st crime committed murder that's ridiculous it's a stop has been very depressed and has been hard on the best of my kids. to explain to them that their brother might not come home for something he didn't. so it has been our all right good luck love you. see the. basic capital defendants apparently did not look. as far out there as you will be in this less each and every natural element of the offense or charge of as charges are of prove beyond doubt. not guilt you gotta ensure. it's assumed. this is from go home school years old. instance if your society or society feel that. just couldn't stop that. genesis him upon that moment in time. when. his enemy. and his enemy and his men appeared in the endurable while they would. be. shot afte

now, john, does not mean exactly what it says? the democrats wrote the articles and they are solely the ones that pass them and they are not abiding by them, correct? >> that's right, and they seem teto think if she were to have another vote that says don't send them over to the senate she would probably get the majority on that as well. you don't have to have the vote, we can deem it as having the accomplishment like they pulled back with the obamacare legislation nearly a decade ago. no, they house of representatives operates by majority vote as a body. no individual member of the house of representatives has any power different than other members and even the speaker. when they passed a resolution that says it shall be exhibited to the senates, that's the law. there is no further action necessary. we are in uncharted territoryct but quite frankly, if i'm senator mcconnell, this exhibited to the senates i read in the congressional record that we're about to take it out next week. >> jason: i'm thinking, maybe do that, but they h

the alleged victim identified only as john doe is now 51 years old and has been trying to take legal action for more than a decade, but has not been able to do so until now, thanks to a new state law about the statute of limitations it goes into effect next month. >>john go again has been waiting for that left 14 years with me for this opportunity for him to try to get accountability 9 cover. exactly what happened had good preacher and they permitted got away with molesting. so many kids the saint martin's and then actually theirs. no real records of him molesting kids prior to saint martin's when he was stuart gain in this diocese for 25 years. >>pressurtd spent his entire career in 7 northern california cities at least 23 lawsuits have been filed against him with 22 them settling for more than million. this lawsuit is asking to northern california churches. 2 of the more complete accused predator list and to stop hiding church members who have been accused of abuse. >>tonight, authorities in monterey county are offering a reward for some important information they're offering a to

there were not necessarily israeli witnesses, they did take back john demjanjuk, does everyone know the story of him a little bit? he was accused of being a man named ivan the terrible. in fact there's a series on television about it now. he was accused of being ivan the terrible of the death camps. this is man and he was found guilty in israel so israel did take him back. found guilty in israel, it's a case unraveled. he was a trawniki man and he did serve in a death camp, just not the traveling to death camp. the so before death camp in poland. israelis knew this and declined to prosecute. and so john was allowed into the united states, return to even though serve him overboard so not the hunting unit decided to prosecute time with was read ahead of unit two attorney time and ask permission to take him about a second time. they successfully prosecuted him a second time, germany took him back and he was convicted in the murder of 27,000 or so jews. in the so the board death camp but to answer your question israel did take him back. there was not a lot of interest from israel over the y

i'm just john doe here. >> reporter: you may be wondering why someone would steal david's identity anduse it to send him a computer. simply mac says it's possible porch of these were plan to go intercept the computer but were foiled because the couple was home when the computer was delivered. they're being allowed to keep the computer for all their troubles. david says he plans to take computer lessons. i'm michael finney, 7 on your side. >>> waiting for them to reopen the roads. >> ooh, check this out. our state's stormy weather almost ruined this couple's thanksgiving. they were stuck in a snowstorm in san bernardino county. they went ahead and had dinner in their car. instead of turkey, their meal turned into chili, macaroni, bread sticks and a cookie for dessert all courtesy of military ration packs. they tried to make the best of it by also having a snowball fight. the couple says they were strand for more than eight hours. smart of them to have those ration packs. >>> okay, still to come on "abc 7 mornings," not just california, the entire country is being slammed by severe weath

." >> and john does make a tidy sum -- $5,000 on the store. $15,000 from ebay, and he's liquidated the bulk of his mom's doll collection for $20,0000. but his job isn't over. john still has close to 1,000 dolls stacked in his barn that he's yet to unload. >> will selling the doll collection help your life? >> it will help me to know that i've fulfilled what my mother asked of me. >> well, if that's what's important to you, johnny, i want to help. >> oh, i would love that more than anything. there is a few of them out there you might like to see, too. >> oooh! >> do you like barbies? there are 19 boxes of solid barbies. >> barbie?! >> yes! >> that's next. >> here's another quiz question for you. which of these toys sold for the highest price at auction -- was it the 1963 g.i. joe prototype, a diamond barbie, or a gold-plated nintendo wii? the answer in a moment. what are you doing back there, junior? since we're obviously lost, i'm rescheduling my xfinity customer service appointment. ah, relax. i got this. which gps are you using anyway? a litt

when does he become one? john: you should pardon the expression, but actually grant voted for buchanan in that first election. he was a douglas guy, etc. etc. i think he does not really recognize the greatness of lincoln until he gets to washington. when he visits lincoln in the white house, and lincoln says some of the things he says, they agree on how to the war, later on he says lincoln is the greatest man i ever met. >> he had to meet him to know that. john: they had never seen each other until that famous episode. >> speaking of that meeting, willards hotel, march of 1864, when grant arrives in the national capital, comes east from the west. he is unknown in the east. there is the famous story where , andlked up to the clerk he said we are pretty crowded, a lot of things going on in washington. we might be able to find you in the back. he signs u.s. grant and son. well, sir, we at the presidential suite. once he is checked in, he goes over to the white house and they meet. this is the first time the two men a

i think that's really effective because it kind of reminds us that this gentleman, elton john, does havest people don't know a big rock star has problems. >> he had these and relate to. even though he's this huge international rock icon with this incredible lot of songs. >> do you think it brings a higher moment when you talk about the great moments in his life? did elton john actually interject about how dark you wanted some of those scenes to >> it was always in the script and we were always very clear, we wanted to make an r rated musical in that respect. we wanted to go to those darker places. without the lows, you don't have the highs. there's some really amazing highs. we wanted to humanize that as much as we can and be authentic in the emotional journey. we went from those darker things, the highs are much greater. hopefully the resolve is more satisfying. >> the award season is coming up. it is clear people love the film. itny award make it even better, are you satisfied? >> wow. what ait's a movie we're incredy proud of. when you craft something with as much attention to detail

i came home and worked so hard, and then there's one kid who is john doe 4, he had his leg amputated because it got smashed in a wall collapse. and he's done. he's going to need people to care for him. there's no rehabilitation in the drc. liz: but can you really directly connect names like apple and tesla to these particular cobalt mines where they are abusing children and forcing this child labor? we did reach out to all of the names here, and we have gotten some statements. among them, dell. see, this is where it gets a little sketchy here. dell says you know, we are committed to sponsoring of these minerals, we have never knowingly sourced operations using any form of involuntary labor or child labor. that whole never knowingly, how do you know, well, as far as i know. how far do you know. apple has removed six cobalt refiners already in 2019 that they felt did not hold up to their standards. so how can you directly connect and sue them? >> well, the reason we have these 14 victims and the five companies that we have named is that the specific mines that the kids were injured or

based on what was revealed this those hearings, john, does that forecast a ukraine report that will bolsterems' argument for impeoplement or back -- impeachment or back president trump's assertion that impeachment is baseless? >> well, this is a report written by democrats, the majority. so you can certainly bet that the report that comes out based upon the 12 witnesses that we saw and heard in public testimony is not going to be a report that in any way is a positive report as far as the president is concerned. you're going to hear a summary of some of the things that we heard or from marie yovanovitch, the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine and, of course, gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the european union, who had pretty remarkable testimony during his full day testimony up on capitol hill. arthel: yeah. and participation, participation as this day winds down, any indication if president trump's counsel will attend and possibly participate in the hearings? >> well, a deadline coming up, arthel, it's in less than two hours. so in less than two hours, we'll have an answer to that qu

god knows we don't dub fool of loonies just like the european parliament ok john what does labor do now ok as the desk settles here when will jeremy step aside assume he will stay in parliament but when and when will he step aside in what do you who do you think will replace him or who is in the running at least go ahead john or is already knows that in taste of his own or think right resigned would immediately the liberal party towards the center and it will be taken a character of what people have been accustomed to expecting from is that is that it's had a winning proposition going back to the center because i know a lot of people in the labor party that's not what they want to do it's very much like the democrats in the united states they're tearing themselves down the middle keep going john absolutely not the center of the political center grow peter has collapsed it collapsed because the new liberal economic model a sustained has collapsed in the wake of a 2000 economic crash by the surely girl with a crash but liberal party will move towards a said the bill through us will be sho

did they really do for workers, they collect a lot of money, and the word freedom does come from mind, and corword johnoes, they hur. we see it time again, jonathan with great example,. too onerous a start working for the worker. >> gary, you are missing -- unions were a key element in insuring things like healthcare and retirement benefits they are legitimate concerns. may have lost their way but you can note toss that particular baby entirely with the bad bath water. david: trump administration announcing it will tackle student debt, is this something maybe he should not be focusing on right now, we break it down coming next. ♪ do you recall, not long ago ♪ we would walk on the sidewalk ♪ ♪ all around the wind blows ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we need someone to lean on ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we needed somebody to lean on ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all we need is someone to lean on ♪ quitting smoking is freaking hard.st, like quitting every monday hard. quitting feels so big. so, try making it smaller. and you'll be surprised at how easily starting small... ...can lead to some

in michigan for more than an hour now he's just wrapped up that speech john hendren is there john what does he have to say. well the president was clearly energized by this impeachment process and by the crowd that was here in battle creek michigan spoke for by my count a little 102 hours the vote them for about a 3rd of that according to his prepared remarks anyway about a 3rd of that was on a beach made you heard the votes earlier where he said the democrats branded themselves with a mark of shame he said they are the ones who are endangering democracy and he gets energized by these crowds and he continues on even when a little more than 30 minutes longer than he was expected to speak and he was received even worse if you see absolutely this was a crowd of many thousands that by one count about 800000 some of them were waiting outside along with a very small no. for a protester when the president was not at all now he offered no apologies he was doing mayans and he made it clear that he's going to seek reelection in 2020 min to do that it needs the help of states mind michigan michigan is

go it knows we don't fool of loonies just like the european called it went ok john what does labor do now ok as the dust settles here when will jeremy step aside assume he will stay in parliament but when when will he step aside and what do you who do you think will replace him or who is in the running at least go ahead john there is already a news that interested as a result and wished immediately report to. towards the center and it will be taken to a character of what people have been accustomed to expecting from is that it's that it's had a winning proposition going back to the center because i know a lot of people in the labor party that's not what they want to do and it's very much like the democrats in the united states they're tearing themselves down the middle keep going john absolutely not the center of the political center grow peter just collapse it collapsed because the neoliberal economic model is sustained or has collapsed in the wake of it too there's an economic crash by the issue an economic crash but the liberal party will move towards a said to be with us will be s

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john, who does this remind you of and we would talk about things. he loved to maryland basketball. i wish he could of been around this year, but that was john's real passion was that an high school ball, so about five years ago john called me and asked me a question about high school ball and we talked about it and i said what you doing and he goes on working on a book about high school basketball. gni both covered things in the late 70s early '80s. there's a lot of parts in the book that i enjoyed because we were both of their. it's went on and on and i have written 10 books now peer they are torturous of things to door and john i think took 12 years to write this book, i mean, last conversation i had with john was a few days before he passed. it was about maryland basketball. he was doing a piece about the 25 greatest athletes. i said what you think-- [inaudible] he said he doesn't belong. this is a guy who loves maryland basketball, but he loved to journalism and the truth more and he convinced me not to put him on the list because i had to agree when had a great high school care

even if you believe, which i do not, william barr does not, and john durham does not, that there wasredible reason to start the investigation into donald trump company counter investigation, it died within weeks. it died within weeks because there were transcripts of undercover doj agents, fbi agents, writing you into people like george papadopoulos, sam clovis come up carter page and those documents were the exculpatory evidence that they did not assent to the fisa court. i think this really blows up even bigger than it is right now when, obviously, john durham comes out with his findings but leading into that, all the attention will be on what happened before july 2016. you know the lie that the fbi has been telling us that the counter investigation began in july of '16. we know that's not true. in fact, in the ig report -- and nobody really talked about this, i thought this was stunning -- in the ig report, it says that christopher steele was hired by glenn simpson of fusion gps in may of '16. may of 2016. >> sean: hold on. this was kimberley strassel find last week. i honed in on

for example, if he were to rule on the admissibility of the documents like a john bolton, does it look so political that they don't want to take that political hit. i think that could be interesting and it could come in that impeachment trial. >> final word to you, is there any political calculation how long nancy pelosi can hold out? does she run a risk here? >> we don't really know. viewers of this are wondering when he will do this. if he have ever actual dloi this. whether or not mitch mcconnell and the republicans will black documents. it is too soon to tell how it will play for her, but we'll see it in van. >> thank you both very much. barbara stay with me for a little more of this conversation after the break. breaking news, police and protestors are crashing right now in hong kong, dramatic live pictures as we speak. going there live. e pictures as we speak going there live so we built a snow globe. s r let's be honest, quitting smoking is freaking hard. like quitting every monday hard. quitting feels so big. so, try making it smaller. and you'll be surprised at how easily star

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yet in october, the pfizer word but correct me if i'm wrong john ratcliffe, does it not say the word verified on it and do we not know that it is unverifiable? did he lie to the president-elect trump or did he live both before and after the trump tower meeting and certify it was verified? he lied once, somewhere in the there. >> it does say verified at the top, sean. and almost exactly a year ago today that mark meadows and jim jordan, trey gowdy and myself deposed jim comey. december 2018, after that deposition, he came out in front of a spray of reporters and asked a bunch of questions about fisa. fisa abuse is a bunch of nonsense. well, if you read the inspector general's report very clearly at the attorney general just laid out, it wasn't just fisa abuse. it was systemic, repeated abuse, gross abuse, misrepresentations, false statements, refusing to provide exculpatory evidence to the fisa court. that was under jim comey's watch. he knew very clearly. >> sean: congressman, he signed it three times. he certified it was verified. if i, sean hannity, what would happen to sean hannit

. >> an unknown john doe. problem for me. >> reporter: holley carnright is the ulster county district attorney. >> i said, "well, we're not going to go forward with any indictment, we're not going to go forward with any arrest until i have the answer to that. >> investigators collected d-n-a samples from all the first responders to see if they could have accidentally left their d-n-a at the scene. and they considered another possibility that the d-n-a belonged to an accomplice. >> we were also trying to get samples from people we had identified that were close to nunez. that's a little trickier because you just can't walk up and ask for the dna. we call it cast-off dna. and you would conduct a surveillance of those individuals and wait for them to discard an item that would most likely have their dna and then you collect that. >> reporter: what kind of items did you collect? i think there was a cigarette butt and maybe a can of soda. over many months, all the samples were processed, but it turned out to be a c

interpretation of a lot of people who know him including a book wrote about him and works for us, john reports does not want to go in there guns ablazing and make a name for himself as somebody who aggressively presided over this. wants to be as low as possible. >> you never know. >> you never know. >> the senate runs the impeachment trial. roberts will preside. again, you're right. never know for sure but he is certainly not going in there with the idea he's going to run it like judge judy. it's going to be -- >> you know mitch mcconnell very well. senate majority leader. is he -- he could okay theoretically as majority leader a trial in the senate where joe biden is forced to testify, where hunter biden is forced to testify. any number of individuals republicans want to hear from, adam schiff theoretically. chairman of the house intelligence committee. what is his inclination, do you think? >> i think this his inclination agree on a set of rooming tules clinton impeachment. unanimous vote and then the trial. his preference -- >> unanimous ruling? >> yes. that way everybody knows the score going i

horowitz has does a disservice. john durham basically said horowitz doesn't know what he's talking about. i think we are looking at rough stuffed by mr. durham coming down the pike. that's what that was today. lou: we'll take that rough stuff with victoria and joe after these words. stay with us. lou: we are back with two of the country's leading attorneys, victoria toensing and joe digenova. i want to turn to john durham. his statement today on the i.g. report, quote, based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the inspector general that we do not agree with some of the report's conclusion as to predication and how the fbi case was opened. it goes to the beginning and the fisa abuse. your thoughts. >> pretty state forward. god bless mr. durham. he told it like it was. there must have been heated conversations between him and the i.g. the last few months. lou: the purpose of making that statement? >> i think he had to get the message out. this could not be allowe