contacts, press conversation, once in a while you would get a conversation with the chairman and john doehr. and all the pressmen would make fun of him because they had no information. but we'd do it every once in a while we'd have a little press gathering. you have to remember. we have to explain what we're doing. >> so on a regular basis, we had to let the public know what's going on. why this was being done. and, so, as this was going on, i just sort of thought in my mind, well, this is going to be televised, obviously. i mean, when the hearings actually take place, the american public has to do it. it was very interesting. it was very formed by the water gate hearings. as you remember, it was very chaotic. there were cameras and all of that kind of stuff. so i had this visual idea that when we, as citizens, came to view this, i wanted them to feel intimacy that they and their member were in a conversation. so i wanted everything that remotely looked like a television or a cable, i want it gone. i had this very clean view. so can you imagine doing this today? so i went to the networks an

these were not sort of a john doehr and that's all it was about. there's a lot of discussion. a lot of, i think, memos and a lot of -- they used to pack every friday the congressman went back to his district in newark and they'd pack a big binder with all of these memos and all of this thinking. and then he'd read them over the weekend and all of the discussion would take place with the various members. he couldn't do this without the consent of his fellow members. he had to have the process work and at the same time, he couldn't feel excluded. it was pretty extraordinary that they had allowed this inquiry to go on so long without their input, without their involvement. and to get there, there was a lot that went on behind the scenes. both in the committee, behind the committee room, in the congressman's office. there was constant out reach about what various members thought on these various issues. >> tomorrow, a congressional gold medal ceremony for the first african american marines known as the montford point marines. about 19,000 marines were stationed at a camp in north