maybe it was before john doerr.mber showing up after and hillary rodham was the second staffer after me. i rumor john doerr calling us in his office, saying, bill and hillary, we have a research project here. we have to find out what concert -- constitutes grounds for impeachment for president and there doesn't seem to be a case on point. it's friday afternoon, i don't want to ruin your weekend. why don't you have the memo on your desk tuesday morning. we said, fine. we looked around and around and six months later, after 40 lawyers had gone blind trying to figure out what the answer that question was, we decided that the answer to the question resided in the newspapers at the time. hear more from hillary rodham clinton and bill weld sunday at 6:00 p.m. eastern here in american history tv. >> university of michigan politics professor pamela brandwein discusses justice joseph bradley's dissent in the "slaughter-house cases," which concerned new orleans butchers' right to practice their trade after the passage of a lo

the interesting thing was that -- an interesting thing was that john doerr had this strong view that we want to have a unified staff. my playmates were mostly hilary limits, hamilton, to some extent, joe woods. i worked closely with john davidson, john whitman and sam garrison on the republican side. i was welcome in both camps. i am not sure everybody was welcome in both camps. the hard core the watergate task -- i they were not quite so partisan as the congressman from texas who had a democratic caucus and was asked what is the theme of jack brooks? what is the theme of this article to of agency abuse, fbi and cia, i don't understand. he took a cigar out of his mouth and said the theme of this article is we are going to get that son of a bitch out of there. some of them were not friendly to president nixon. some pressure on the republicans of the staff? a number of minority members were disappointed with how things were going and how john doerr was doing his job. were there any pressures on you, where they asking you questions? >> the republican members of the committee had a perfec

bill's phone rang and he got a all from john doerr. john said, "i have been asked to put together a team of lawyers for the house judiciary committee to investigate whether there are grounds for impeachment of resident nixon, and i have a list of people and you are at the top of the list if you would like to come to work. bill said, i'm going to run for congress. i can't. bill said, who else is on your list? john said, mike conway and illary rodham. bill said, hillary is standing right here. nd he handed me phone. -- the phone. john asked me if i wanted to go to work in washington for the impeachment inquiry staff. i said yes, i'm very honored to be asked. sometime after the first of the year i left my job and moved to washington and went to work for john. >> how long did you think this was going to last? >> i don't know that i ought like that. when you are young and starting out, how long did the job take? i didn't know what the job was. i had no timetable at all. >> was there any concern on the future president's part you are doing th

bill's phone rang and he got a call from john doerr. and john doerr said, i have been asked to put together a team of lawyers for the house judiciary committee to investigate whether there are grounds for impeachment of president nixon and i have a list of people that i'm going over and you're at the top of the list if you would like to come to work and bill said, well, actually, i'm going to run for congress, so i can't. and then bill said, well, who else is on your list? and john said, well, mike conway, rufus cormier and hillary rodham and bill said, oh, well hillary rodham is standing right here so he passed me the phone and john doerr asked me if i wanted to go to work in washington for the impeachment inquiry staff. i said, yes, i'm very honored to be asked and so shortly some time after the first of the year, i left my job at the children's defense fund and moved to washington and went to .ork for john doerr timothy: how long did you think this was going to last? you said yes. sec. clinton: i don't know that i thought like that,

. >> first of all, let me ask you about john doerr. what do you remember of john doerr and his efforts to give you information? mr. lott: not a lot except i had a negative reaction to him from the beginning. i was not a big fan of john doerr. >> rodino? mr. lott: well, you know, he was the chairman. i thought he ran a fair hearing in that he gave everybody their chance to be heard. but it was obvious to me from early on that he intended to impeach him. do you remember seeing the watergate special prosecutor handover what was described as a roadmap, a 120-page document with all the information they had on the cover up, that was handed to your committee? mr. lott: i do remember that. he was from texas, highly respected, not thought of as a terrible partisan, more of a texas kind of democrat. i remember thinking at the time it was a pretty --pretty devastating material he gave us. timothy: you had a very dramatic conversation with gerald ford that summer. mr. lott: actually, that conversation, i think i talked about it in the book. "herdi

circumspect and careful as john doerr was.ourself grandstanding and holding news conferences and playing to your base. sidegoes way beyond whose you're on or who is on your side. onexplore our nation's past, american history tv, every weekend on c-span3. >> if i hang my head in shame at the industry, particularly at cronkite and what i would say the very unfair, personalized reporting of these fellows. know theou should opinion, because you will be disappointed in me down the road if i didn't tell you that. i think your industry is wrecking all of us.

next, house judiciary committee special counsel john doerr expense how he was hired by peter rodino and the objectives of the investigation. we taped to the interview for "q&a" in 2009. >> another photo people might recognize. washat is in 1974 when i special counsel for the house judiciary committee investigating the conduct of president nixon. hillary clinton is standing next next to her is joseph woods of oakland, california, who was my associate as counsel of the committee, counsel to the committee. we were at law school. counsel -- youo service counsel to peter rodino for' how long? first of january 1973, and 48 or nine months in 1974. >> the conclusion that articles passed by the committee, when you read about your role in that, some say you convinced some of the republicans to come vote with the democrats against president nixon. >> i don't think that is accurate. i think the way the evidence was presented by the lawyers that , the for me persuaded committee members to vote yes. we set for ourselves a standard to conduct a standard of the investigation, that we would not be satis

hillary rodham was a recent graduate of yale law school when she was hired by john doerr, lead specialel on the judiciary committee. >> when you graduate in 1973, what do you expect to be doing in 1974?

next, house judiciary committee special counsel john doerr expense how he was hired by peter rodino and the objectives of the investigation.

i think peter rodino made the choice, because he picked john doerr, who was a republicansand picked a republican counsel, so here we were, having an impeachment inquiry headed by two republican lawyers. but it was rodino's insight, that led him to understand this could never be seen by the american people as an effort by democrats to railroad and republican president. otherwise the impeachment would never have happened. rodino, and ultimately the other members of the committee realized, certainly all the democrats realized that what was at stake was preserving the constitution. bend over backwards to do the right thing, even if we wanted to move more quickly. >> we will have to that question. there was a thing. you were saying that with the hiring, the fact that regina chose a republican, he understood that -- rodino chose republican, he understood you would have to bend over backwards. rep. holtzman: if we were going to succeed and breathe -- bring the country with us, the only way it would be successful would be if the country thought this was totally fair and honorable and not a pa

next, house judiciary committee special counsel john doerr explained how he was hired by peter rodino and the objectives of the investigation. we take the interview for c-span's q&a series in 2009. >> we have another photo i want to show that people might recognize some of the players in that photo. washat is in 1974, when i in the special counsel for the house judiciary committee, investigating the conduct of president nixon. hillary clinton is standing next woods as is her is joseph of oakland, california, who was my associate in the counsel to the committee. we were law school classmates. >> you served in that commission for how long? probably the 30th of december 2 the first of and then for the eight months or nine months of 1974. >> the conclusion of that committee, the three articles that were passed by the committee, when you read about your role in that, some say you were the one who convinced some of the republicans to come over and vote with democrats against president nexen. >> -- president nixon. >> i don't think that is accurate. the the way the evidence was presented by

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but in the end, i think peter rodino made an excellent choice because he picked john doerr, who was a republican, and the republicans picked a republican counsel. so here we were having an impeachment inquiry headed by two republican lawyers. but it was rodino's insight, wisdom that led him to understand that this could never be seen by the american people as an effort by democrats to railroad a republican president. otherwidewise it would -- impeachment would never happen. and i think rodino and ultimately other members of the committee realized, or most of the other members of the committee realized, certainly all the democrats realized that what was at stake here was preserving the constitution. so we had to bend over backwards, even if we didn't like it, to do the right thing. even if we wanted to move more quickly. even if we wanted to have a democratic counsel. even if we wanted something else. timothy: we have to repeat that question. there was a bang. i'm sorry. >> okay. from bend over backwards. timothy: yeah. >> please say that. rep. holtzman: i don't remember what i said. t

if i recall correctly, when i got in the middle and john doerr thinkowny face with me, i hillary intervened and defended me on that and i have never forgotten that. >> frowny face? bill: yeah, he did. he said i should have known about this. how did this happen. >> tell us about what happens -- you were -- you were going to tell us what happened after this experience. >> well, you know, this was the beginning of a life long career of litigation and politics from me. i transferred from the corporate department to litigation. ran for state attorney general in 1978 because i was so obsessed with the investigative possibilities of grand juries and thought the ag's office was not doing as much as it could have. i was absolutely creamed in that one. but then when reagan was elected, i was, you know, a republican who knew how to try a case. appointed a u.s. attorney, and then had a lot of public corruption cases there. went to washington as head of the criminal vest division, went back to massachusetts, ran for governor and won. before that happened, i was approximately -- i was practicing law as a

careful asmspect and john door was -- john doerr was. restrain yourself from grandstanding and holding news conferences and playing to your base. this goes way beyond whose side is on, you are on or who is on your side. announcer: explore our nation passed on american history tv, every weekend on c-span3. announcer: next, on this presidency. matthew costello talked about his new book "the property of the nation: george washington's tomb, mount vernon, and the memory of the first president." we hear about the ways that americans remembered and celebrated george washington in

but the impeachment staff, the person i interacted with was john doerr, and also his deputy, who was renard nussbaum, later counsel to president nix -- president clinton. who also is a good friend of mine. i knew him. we talked from time to time. but i didn't interact with other members of the impeachment staff. timothy: did you see sort of evolution in the thinking of your colleagues? what were the high -- i mean, people who were on the fence. there must have been people on the fence in the beginning, on the democratic side certainly. rep. holtzman: well, i think in a way everybody was on the fence. none of us i believe had ever studied what impeachment meant in law school. and by the way, i think when i was on the house judiciary committee, all the members of the committee were lawyers. we didn't study the impeachment clause. nobody knew what a high crime and misdemeanor was. nobody had studied the standards. so while we might disagree with certain policies of the president, disagreeing with policies, is that enough to warrant impeachment? i don't think so. but that was something w

careful asmspect and john door was -- john doerr was. restrain yourself from grandstanding and holding news conferences and playing to your base. this goes way beyond whose side is on, you are on or who is on your side. announcer: explore our nation passed on american history tv, every weekend on c-span3. announcer: next, on this presidency. matthew costello talked about his new book "the property of the nation: george washington's tomb, mount vernon, and the memory of the first president." we hear about the ways that americans remembered and celebrated george washington in the 19th century. and he talked about how the freed and enslaved people on washington's mount vernon estate helped shape the historical narrative about the first president. mr. costello is a historian at the white house historical association, which hosted this event. >> good evening everyone. the house historical association , i would like to welcome our friends joining us by c-span and those who are here with us tonight who are the really smart people in washington,

be as circumspect and careful as john doerr was. fromain yourself grandstanding and holding news conferences and playing to your base. this goes way beyond whose side you are on or who is on your side. explore our nation's past every weekend on c-span three. president johnson: i want to tell you that i hang my head in shame at the industry, in particular can't guide and what i would say is very unfair, personalized reporting of these fellas, and i think, you ought to know that opinion because you will be disappointed in me down the road if i do not tell you that. i will just tell you frankly i think your industry is wrecking all of us. well, that's very heavy-handed. wrecking the country. very disturbing. and we are hearing that today. the press is the enemy of the american people according to trump. the press is not the enemy of the american people. the press is out there doing the work of the american old. --american people. betweenht, the tension american presidents and the press. --ch on c-span's q and day q&a. >> next on americ

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. >> as limitations were set for us by john doerr. >> yes. recall, correct me if i'm wrong. trust.my carter's >> i just want one follow-up question. did it or did it not become evident inside the white house, that the lack of insiders was a problem? boss and later i became chief speechwriter. it became evident before we had even come to the office. clear to atpretty least our little cabal. >> jackson, give us some reflection before we get into individual presidents just on how you think about the word misconduct and what it means in terms of how we should think about ideology, policy, sexual scandal, whatever it is. >> i'm in favor of a much broader definition of misconduct than much of what we've been talking about so far. you start to get into policy and you are beginning to speak my language. because i feel like the most serious presidential misconduct, the sort of misconduct that has been most destructive, to human lives and liberties, both at home and abroad, has occurred at a specific historical moment, the last 70 years. and particularly, the intelligence agencies. re

you worked closely with john doerr.nteresting because kleiner is one of the more storied venture capital firms, but was also sued for gender discrimination by ellen pao. what was your experience at kleiner like? aileen: growing up in tech and venture capital when you are the only woman around the table almost all the time is not easy. and you see and experience a lot of things that by legal definitions are not legal. and people choose to handle it in different ways. emily: ellen lost her case in court, but do you think she should have won? aileen: i was surprised on one of them that she did not win. that is all i will say. emily: what made you decide to leave kleiner? i know you suggested investing in uber, and they were not interested at the time. there were moments where you had ideas, and they did not listen. aileen: some good friends of my husband and mine are entrepreneurs. they are always thinking about startups. we were having dinner. well and knewirm me really well and said, when will you leave to start your own

asas circumspect and careful john doerr was.train yourself from grandstanding and holding news conferences and playing to your base. whose sideay beyond you are on or who is on your side. >> explore our nation's past on american history tv, every weekend on c-span 3. >> "washington journal" continues. >> we are back with rosemary gibson, author of "china rx: exposing the risks of america's dependence on china for medicine ." and senior advisor at the hastings center. good morning. guest: good morning. great to be here. host: tell us about drug shortages in the united states. what drugs are we talking about. what drugs are we short on? guest: in the united states of america, we have a shortage of really important medicines. this has been going on 20 years. andave had hundreds hundreds. one of the medicines and shortage right now is a really important blood thinner that hospitals use every single day. there was an article in a local newspaper about a boston physician saying i do not know if we can do cardiac surgery two weeks from