joining us one of the union leaders cutting ties with the dolphins. john let me go back, about a month ago, they reached out to us to have first-responders day. and, listen we were thrilled. i thought i would be here promoting this event instead of canceling it. and, listen by them doing the kneeling, it didn't happen. i guess they didn't get the memo. brian: the dolphins came out originally said, miami dolphins, i don't know what the nfl will do, the miami dolphins will stand. they got a lot of blowback that they pulled back. is that one of the reasons you agreed to the program, you thought the dolphins would be standing? >> absolutely we thought we would be standing. also we thought that this was an olive branch to kind of mend and heal and actually have some constructive dialogue. brian: right. because the nfl owners always say we don't get their message right, we're not getting the message. their problem with law enforcement, it is with the people you represent. >> yeah, they feel like police brutality is out there whatever. listen, that is not the iss