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she's recommending the john eastman law license be revoked in california. and this is a decision that follows a 34 for day trial where more than a dozen witnesses detailed eastman scheme to undermine the 20 2020 election and this also comes at a time when several of the attorneys who did back trump or once back trump are all in professional peril do you still think the election was stolen >> definitely. john eastman and jeffrey clark are still defiant. >> they've tried to destroy me, but i'm still standing and i'm going to keep fighting more than three years after they allegedly worked with then president trump to try to overturn the 2020 election. >> do you regret it? attaching your name to the former president? none whatsoever. john >> eastman operated as the so-called architect behind the fake elector scheme, and jeffrey clark instigated an intense pressure campaign inside the justice department to try to get doj officials to help overturn the election for trump. now, both menn are facing professional reckonings. eastman and clark had been sitting think t
she's recommending the john eastman law license be revoked in california. and this is a decision that follows a 34 for day trial where more than a dozen witnesses detailed eastman scheme to undermine the 20 2020 election and this also comes at a time when several of the attorneys who did back trump or once back trump are all in professional peril do you still think the election was stolen >> definitely. john eastman and jeffrey clark are still defiant. >> they've tried to destroy...
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now, erica asked for john eastman. of course, we just got that ruling in from the california judge recommending disbarment. what happens next is the california supreme court will have to decide whether to endorse or reject that recommendation and officially disbar eastman. but of course, this step from the judge is very significant after that lengthy fact fighting, finding trial that lasted 34 days and in the meantime, erica eastman has been ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, and while the supreme court of the state of california considers this in three days, his law license will in fact, b. suspended, or the supreme court decides exactly what to do. >> wow really appreciate jessica. thank you. >> outfront. now, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist, who's covered donald trump for more than 30 years, david this judge recommending john eastman should be disbarred on the same day, jeffrey clark faces trial to determine whether he will be punished >> when you think about it, these >> are just two
now, erica asked for john eastman. of course, we just got that ruling in from the california judge recommending disbarment. what happens next is the california supreme court will have to decide whether to endorse or reject that recommendation and officially disbar eastman. but of course, this step from the judge is very significant after that lengthy fact fighting, finding trial that lasted 34 days and in the meantime, erica eastman has been ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, and while the supreme...
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that's not a great comparison for john eastman. on one level, there is something maddening about this. the eastman did everything he could to overthrow the constitutional order and three years later, the only real punishment he receives is at the ripe old age of 63, he may no longer be able to practice law. there is also something revealing about the disbarment hearing, which is that in every single case, i think without exception, when you take what happened during the attempted to and you put it through some process with evidence and testimony, witnesses, that the adjudicative process inevitably determines that something gravely wrong occurred. when it comes to eastman in particular, that's been true for a long time. in fact, two years ago today, a federal judge ruled that eastman could not hide documents from the january 6th committee by setting claims of attorney-client privilege. because of something called the crime fraud exception which means privilege does not apply when the information in question may have been used in the
that's not a great comparison for john eastman. on one level, there is something maddening about this. the eastman did everything he could to overthrow the constitutional order and three years later, the only real punishment he receives is at the ripe old age of 63, he may no longer be able to practice law. there is also something revealing about the disbarment hearing, which is that in every single case, i think without exception, when you take what happened during the attempted to and you put...
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john eastman and jeffrey clark trying to save their law licenses right now. >>> the painful, heartbreaking grief for four families waiting for answers about their loved ones who are presumed dead in that horrific baltimore bridge collapse. the challenging recovery effort underway. >>> and the new $2 million ad buy from tiktok, how the wildly popular app is fighting back against a possible u.s. ban. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we begin in atlanta with donald trump's latest bid to get the election interference case thrown out. nbc's blayne alexander is there. what happened today, blayne? >> reporter: well, chris, what we saw today in the fulton county courtroom is what we have seen play out many times over the course of this, between either the former president or his many codefendants in trying to get this indictment thrown out. basically today, steve sadow arguing that everything alleged in the indictment fell under first amendment protection, that it was nothing more than political speech. the state pushed back on that, of course, basically sayi
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we know john eastman plans to appeal this decision.s ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? are we going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back? >> look, disbarment is i think by design a very slow and painfully slow process. you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently disbarred. and rudy giuliani was suspended from practicing law more than a year ago in washington dc. buff his decision is still pending and it takes a long time. eastman gets to appeal in a review panel and go to the california supreme court if he is unhappy with that ruling so there's still a few more levels here for him. >> i noticed you did not say anything about his return to the academy. not even a prospect we want to contemplate. but many thanks to both of you for laying this out. >> and mary, i'll see you on the pod. i have a lot of questions to ask my coanchor and coauthor about the supreme court ahead of the immunity hearing on april 25th. that's next. 25th. that's next. ♪ and doug ♪ hello, ghostbuste
we know john eastman plans to appeal this decision.s ultimately disbarred, what are his professional prospects? are we going to have to welcome this former law professor and dean back? >> look, disbarment is i think by design a very slow and painfully slow process. you are taking away someone's livelihood if they are permanently disbarred. and rudy giuliani was suspended from practicing law more than a year ago in washington dc. buff his decision is still pending and it takes a long time....
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so john eastman, how to trial previously. and there was a decision that came out of that trial that there was a finding that he had potentially some moral issues that would potentially mean now that decision could be that he will lose his license. that's what's at stake. we're waiting to see what a judge in california that oversees the bar, there, the attorneys that are allowed to practice in that state and elsewhere. that decision is expected today. on john eastman, there's still has to be a little bit more process after that, but the findings that were waiting for after this trial where johnny spin testified in his own defense about his actions for donald trump that is what's we're seeing the result of that today. and there are not it's not just john eastman who's going through proceedings like this. jeffrey clark is currently in his own attorney discipline trial, started yesterday in washington, dc. rudy giuliani has already been through one and the initial findings were the he should be disbarred. it still has to go so th
so john eastman, how to trial previously. and there was a decision that came out of that trial that there was a finding that he had potentially some moral issues that would potentially mean now that decision could be that he will lose his license. that's what's at stake. we're waiting to see what a judge in california that oversees the bar, there, the attorneys that are allowed to practice in that state and elsewhere. that decision is expected today. on john eastman, there's still has to be a...
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this week, a federal judge ruled that john eastman should bedisbarred in california. eastman is alleged to have been one of the architects of the scheme to substitute states of fake electors. in relation to that scheme. in a scathing 128 page opinion, judge yvette rowland rebuked eastman for knowingly asserting false claims about voter fraud, misrepresenting the law in order to pressure vice president mike pence to reject the vote certification, and conspiring quote, with president trump to obstruct a lawful function of the government of the united states. specifically by conspiring todisrupt the count on january 6th, 2021. eastman exhibited gross negligence by making false statements about the election without conducting any meaningful investigation or verification of the information he was relying upon. the evidence presented demonstrates that eastman despite claiming sincere belief deliberately propagated false claims about the 2020 presidential election thereby breaching his ethical duty as an attorney to prioritize honesty and integrity. end quote. >> so john eas
this week, a federal judge ruled that john eastman should bedisbarred in california. eastman is alleged to have been one of the architects of the scheme to substitute states of fake electors. in relation to that scheme. in a scathing 128 page opinion, judge yvette rowland rebuked eastman for knowingly asserting false claims about voter fraud, misrepresenting the law in order to pressure vice president mike pence to reject the vote certification, and conspiring quote, with president trump to...
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someone like john eastman can be disbarred. me is the kind of candidate that trump if i think if president would install in the white house as a senior adviser to give him the sort of advice he wants to hearment that has always been the mainstay of trump world. the people who survive are the ones who tell trump what he wants to hear. jeff clark is someone he has identified as a person he would want to install in a high position in the justice department. and if he were disbarred, that would preclude that route. if he escapes disbarment, this is a good candidate to be the head one one of the doj's components. that is not what he is aiming for, but he might end up as the deputy attorney general. these are the people trump wants to surround himself with. and, i don't think disbarment necessarily will be an obstacle for trump world. >> as they think about who they will put in, in a second trump term, the republicans continue to push out the likes of liz cheney. they have turned against republicans like her and others. she is out he
someone like john eastman can be disbarred. me is the kind of candidate that trump if i think if president would install in the white house as a senior adviser to give him the sort of advice he wants to hearment that has always been the mainstay of trump world. the people who survive are the ones who tell trump what he wants to hear. jeff clark is someone he has identified as a person he would want to install in a high position in the justice department. and if he were disbarred, that would...
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in john eastman's case, a 34-day trial.een testimony from a number of people, including several department of justice officials who were in the room with jeff clark when he tried to persuade donald trump that he should continue to go down the path of suggesting to states that they appoint their own electors and essentially circumvent the will of the voters. >> thank you very much for keeping track because it is hard to keep track of all the election deniers and all the people in trouble in donald trump's orbit who were allegedly trying to overturn the election back in those heady days in 2020. lisa rubin, thank you very much. >>> and a judge has found that a georgia republican who claimed the 2020 election was stolen himself voted illegally not once, but nine times. nine times. "the washington post" reports brian pritchard, the first vice chairman of the georgia state republican party was sentenced in pennsylvania in 1996 to three years probation for forging a check. his probation was revoked three times, and he was resente
in john eastman's case, a 34-day trial.een testimony from a number of people, including several department of justice officials who were in the room with jeff clark when he tried to persuade donald trump that he should continue to go down the path of suggesting to states that they appoint their own electors and essentially circumvent the will of the voters. >> thank you very much for keeping track because it is hard to keep track of all the election deniers and all the people in trouble...
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but just remember that john eastman has joined a very small exclusive club. you know, it is really hard to get disbarreds a lawyer. i just want you to know that. out of 1.4 million lawyers in 2021, only 500 were disbarred. it does not happen very often in a self-policing profession. the fact that the opinion was so strong in its words and wording, there was one count that was dismissed. so it was a fair proceeding and looking at the facts, but lawyers don't get to make stuff up, don't get to make laws up. these were lawyers including john eastman who thought that donald trump was powerful enough and that they were going to get away with it, which has nothing to do with whether they thought it was lawful, and that's why this matters so much. >> amanda, i believe the 1/6 select committee developed evidence john eastman was personally aware it was both illegal, it violated the electoral count act, and it was unconstitutional. the u.s. supreme court would at first he thought strike it down 7-2, and thain he conceded they would lose 9-0. that knowledge what he was
but just remember that john eastman has joined a very small exclusive club. you know, it is really hard to get disbarreds a lawyer. i just want you to know that. out of 1.4 million lawyers in 2021, only 500 were disbarred. it does not happen very often in a self-policing profession. the fact that the opinion was so strong in its words and wording, there was one count that was dismissed. so it was a fair proceeding and looking at the facts, but lawyers don't get to make stuff up, don't get to...
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what john eastman did though, as mr. cardona just said, is he time and again dozens of times laid out in this opinion, gave false information to court, made arguments based on things that he claimed were fat, but he knew or should have known were false and that's why he's now had his license suspended. >> so what do you make of his statement tonight where he saying that the process is they referred to it, that he undertook is the same one taken by lawyers every day and everywhere. it is the essence of what lawyers do. i mean, >> it's good in theory, if that is what he had done but that's not what he did, right? we see people make novel legal arguments all time. i'll give you a recent example. we saw groups of lawyers recently bringing 14th amendment challenges to try to keep trump off the ballot. well, that was untested. they were making aggressive arguments that failed almost uniformly that were rejected 90 by the supreme court. but that's not going to get anyone disbarred because they didn't lie they didn't make up fac
what john eastman did though, as mr. cardona just said, is he time and again dozens of times laid out in this opinion, gave false information to court, made arguments based on things that he claimed were fat, but he knew or should have known were false and that's why he's now had his license suspended. >> so what do you make of his statement tonight where he saying that the process is they referred to it, that he undertook is the same one taken by lawyers every day and everywhere. it is...
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here's john eastman my name is john eastman. i'm here today to surrender to an indictment as troubling. it targets a 20 they're zealous advocacy on behalf of their clients. something attorneys are ethically bound to provide. >> do you still think the election was stolen >> similar still, no question. >> do you regret attaching your name to the former president? none whatsoever >> perhaps there should be a little bit of regret. consider use investigate, barred. >> what's on there >> yeah. be spent so much time and law school and everything. but i think what we're going to see from democrats is them lean into this showing what happened? because i think what we've seen from republicans quite a few is i'm trying to downplay, of course, what happened january 6 and the efforts to overturn 2020. but having your lawyer disbar communicates that this was not a light matter. that's something actually occurred that suggests that this should not happen again. and i think the fear that many many people want to laugh have is that if trump is t
here's john eastman my name is john eastman. i'm here today to surrender to an indictment as troubling. it targets a 20 they're zealous advocacy on behalf of their clients. something attorneys are ethically bound to provide. >> do you still think the election was stolen >> similar still, no question. >> do you regret attaching your name to the former president? none whatsoever >> perhaps there should be a little bit of regret. consider use investigate, barred. >>...
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this is following a trial of john eastman regarding attorney discipline proceedings that were brought against him. so what's at stake is the possible loss of his law license. it would have to be certified by the courts in california if that's what the judge decides, the penalty should be for john eastman for the work he did for donald trump after 2020. but this is one of those trials where you're seeing the consequence of 2020 and that election, the efforts of lawyers on behalf of donald trump play out even well before those cases go to criminal trial, we will see what happens with eastman today. there's also proceedings happening for others in the system who are lawyers. fred. >> all right. katelyn polantz. thanks so much. john new cnn >> reporting sources say that former president do bomber is calling it an all hands on deck moment. new details on how he is planning to help the biden campaign. and the fda approves a new drug that could stop the deadly condition and women, the doctors are calling it ticking time bomb >> if you work in spaceflight. this is the worst possible thing tha
this is following a trial of john eastman regarding attorney discipline proceedings that were brought against him. so what's at stake is the possible loss of his law license. it would have to be certified by the courts in california if that's what the judge decides, the penalty should be for john eastman for the work he did for donald trump after 2020. but this is one of those trials where you're seeing the consequence of 2020 and that election, the efforts of lawyers on behalf of donald trump...
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in 2024 oh, yeah, maybe someone should also tell the former trump election lawyer his name was john eastman, that we're also passed it because a california judge just >> recommended eastman to be disbarred >> why? >> because it was actions that he took a challenge trump's 2020 election loss. this would mean he could not practice law anymore. if of course it's adopted. >> now eastman's lawyer >> is responding tonight saying that eastman maintains that he worked as he should have on legal issues after the 2020 election for his then client, trump will joining me now, a cnn legal analyst, norm eyes and he was also a part of a group of 25 bipartisan ethics experts who called upon the california bar to investigate mr. eastman. norm was not named in the decision and order today. norm. so glad you're here and good to see you. i mean, we had been wondering a lot about what would come of this particular hearing. he's got a lot of due process about this very proposal. now, they are placing him on involuntary inactive status right now. >> can you walk us through >> why this court is saying that he shou
in 2024 oh, yeah, maybe someone should also tell the former trump election lawyer his name was john eastman, that we're also passed it because a california judge just >> recommended eastman to be disbarred >> why? >> because it was actions that he took a challenge trump's 2020 election loss. this would mean he could not practice law anymore. if of course it's adopted. >> now eastman's lawyer >> is responding tonight saying that eastman maintains that he worked as...
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a california judge has ruled john eastman will be disbarred. at this moment, he can no longer practice law. thank you, ruth and miles. not telling you what he thinks, he's telling you what he knows. >>> next, robert f. kennedy jr. is polling anywhere from 8 to 13% in the polls which could affect the outcome of the november election. how this antivax con spirist is posing a threat to president biden. s posing a threat to president biden. starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a
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john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right?from california because of his participation in trying to overturn the election, one of the more extreme examples but a very good one. another one is june yu who wrote the torture memos under george w. bush. laura engram, hate mongering on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might work to overturn free and fair elections or whipping up hatred against muslim immigrants, but either way they're preaching from the gospel clarence thomas helped to write. and i'm sure crystal clanton will be set along the exact same path once she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas' arm ay. thanks for making the time tonight. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> it's about telling a story. people have -- people are breaking their necks
john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right?from california because of his participation in trying to overturn the election, one of the more extreme examples but a very good one. another one is june yu who wrote the torture memos under george w. bush. laura engram, hate mongering on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might work to overturn free and fair elections or whipping up hatred against muslim immigrants, but...
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john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clicker. is that right?cipation in trying to overturn. and the torture memos. laura ingram. a hate monger on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might try to overturn free and fair elections. but either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write and i am sure that crystal clanton will be set along the exact same path once she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas' army. ladies and gentlemen. it is always great to talk with you, mark. thanks for making the time. >> thank you. >> that is our show this evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening and welcome back lawrence. >> thanks alex. >>> so mike is over there. right over there. in radio city music hall with the three presidents. and, he is
john eastman is a former clarence thomas law clicker. is that right?cipation in trying to overturn. and the torture memos. laura ingram. a hate monger on fox news every night. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary. they might try to overturn free and fair elections. but either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write and i am sure that crystal clanton will be set along the exact same path once she graduates from this boot camp. >>...
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john eastman, another key january 6 figure has also been recommended for disbarment, but is not like they are banned from having a big role in trump world and it seems that these guys are not going away so long as these -- donald trump stays in the picture. to some extent, these were architects of the political side of what he was trying to do on january 6. >> yes, i think that is right. someone like john eastman can be disbarred and if trump were to win the election, he is the kind of candidate that i think trump, if president, would install in the white house as a senior adviser to give him the sort of advice he wants to hear because that is always been the mainstay of trump world. the people who survive are the people who tell trump what he wants to hear. jeff clark i think is more interesting. he has long been someone trump has identified as a person he would want to install in a high position in the justice department if he were re- elected. if you were disbarred, that would obviously preclude that route. if he escapes disbarment, though, someone like jeff clark is a good candid
john eastman, another key january 6 figure has also been recommended for disbarment, but is not like they are banned from having a big role in trump world and it seems that these guys are not going away so long as these -- donald trump stays in the picture. to some extent, these were architects of the political side of what he was trying to do on january 6. >> yes, i think that is right. someone like john eastman can be disbarred and if trump were to win the election, he is the kind of...
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john eastman, he was known as the architect of the plan to halt. congress has certification of joe biden's presidential victory. he's facing possible disbarment and he's one of more than a dozen trump allies to be charged in the georgia election interference case so i should say he's pleaded not guilty, but you know, it's it's sort of an occupational hazard at this point. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think that it's really interesting to note that donald trump relied very heavily on the lawyers of course, john eastman who is about to have an announcement from california any our nile, where i believe that it will probably lead to an announcement of disbarment. you've got jeffrey clark who is disbarment hearing in washington do you started yesterday >> mr. >> trump relied upon the attorneys to wave a false flag of legitimacy for the attempt to overturn the election and specifically the eastman memo laid out the false electoral scheme, which was infamous and that led to his famous mug shot as well as all the others in georgia this, is going to b
john eastman, he was known as the architect of the plan to halt. congress has certification of joe biden's presidential victory. he's facing possible disbarment and he's one of more than a dozen trump allies to be charged in the georgia election interference case so i should say he's pleaded not guilty, but you know, it's it's sort of an occupational hazard at this point. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think that it's really interesting to note that donald trump relied very heavily on...
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i saw a claim that life and able to piece together and pretty sure came from john eastman 16,002 picketta. this is a pattern. all the numbers were hyperinflated because the people who did the analysis didn't understand what they were looking at and they didn't understand how to make >> your book, "disproven." it is your turn to ask question. before we get to calls, which states did you focus on in this book? guest: georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. host: in point pleasant bod mor. caller:seen you on tv. there is nothing you can say about the seven states you are talking about, they changed their unconstitutionally. you cannot tell me that is not right. rudy giuliani had affidavits from poll workers and the judges didn't take them up, they said they lacked standingyou keep cu, to get the same number. they weree votes. that is what happened. host: please hang on the line and listen to the response. guest: this is an important point. my work was all tasked specifically to finding the fraud that would survive legal scrutiny. when you bring it to court and the defen
i saw a claim that life and able to piece together and pretty sure came from john eastman 16,002 picketta. this is a pattern. all the numbers were hyperinflated because the people who did the analysis didn't understand what they were looking at and they didn't understand how to make >> your book, "disproven." it is your turn to ask question. before we get to calls, which states did you focus on in this book? guest: georgia, arizona, nevada, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania....
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john eastman is somebody who engage in anti-democratic behavior. he should be part ii, by the way, applaud pap filled been a white house counsel under donald trump, who testified in this case and talked and told the truth about what he was trying to do to block the certification of the election is remarkable, but you said that the trump campaign has gotten smarter over these years. they've learned lessons from what happened back in 2020. >> they have, they know how to use the they, they know how to gain media attention. so if you don't have the money there, he can live based on earned media. it's kinda the playbook used in 2016. and i think he does he's always had his finger on the pulse of what middle america actually cares about slain officer who shouldn't have, who the person killed him shouldn't have been out oh, that's something that resonates more than a bunch of celebrities at radio city music hall. >> alyssa farah griffin, you always brings some really interesting points and some good insight. we appreciate it. thank you, fred >> all right,
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former trump attorney john eastman a judge in california, has recently ruled he should be disbarred for his actions and trying to overturn the 2020 election. can this be used against him in that georgia case, jeremy well the same principles are going to apply. it's not whether or not, for example, in that state bar a decision or recommendation is not the actual decision that he was not repetitive. he was not remorseful, but some of the facts are going to be the same, meaning he was actively engaging in this effort to overturn this election. so the substance of it is going to be the same. the ruling is not a final ruling. it's just ultimately if the ruling from that state court judge, but he is not this bar. he's temporarily not able to practice law. that should not come in. i would argue about what the defense at that has no place for that because it's not a final ruling. it has not come to a conclusion. >> but the underlying elements of that he has not been apologetic. he's not repenting. i'm sure he'll be challenged on that front. but what did he >> specifically do? what were his acti
former trump attorney john eastman a judge in california, has recently ruled he should be disbarred for his actions and trying to overturn the 2020 election. can this be used against him in that georgia case, jeremy well the same principles are going to apply. it's not whether or not, for example, in that state bar a decision or recommendation is not the actual decision that he was not repetitive. he was not remorseful, but some of the facts are going to be the same, meaning he was actively...
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of the charges that he was facing, other people that were named, donald trump, rudy giuliani, john eastmanrk meadows, and so this is certainly notable because the former president was facing a number of charges, but to have six of them removed is notable. now, it's important to note, he's still facing charges here in georgia, still facing charges in fulton county. we're also still waiting on a major decision from judge scott mcafee as to whether or not fani willis can continue to remain prosecutor on this case. this is not that decision. so, to see this decision from the judge to come out this morning is a bit of a surprise. i've reached out to trump's georgia attorney here who has been representing him as the lead attorney to see if he has any comment and weave reached out to the d.a.'s office to see if they have any abide or plan to push back on this ruling by the judge. >> blayne, stay with me as i know you have to go through this filing, go ahead and look at that while i bring in caroline polici, a white collar defense attorney here, caroline, we're all just getting the news here and t
of the charges that he was facing, other people that were named, donald trump, rudy giuliani, john eastmanrk meadows, and so this is certainly notable because the former president was facing a number of charges, but to have six of them removed is notable. now, it's important to note, he's still facing charges here in georgia, still facing charges in fulton county. we're also still waiting on a major decision from judge scott mcafee as to whether or not fani willis can continue to remain...
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who is getting there are a lot of questions about john eastman. and on top of that, kate, we know that one of the things the arizona prosecutors have done now is spoken to ken chesebro. he was one of the top lawyers working around people like eastman and others with trump to organize these fake electors can chesebro previously spoke to investigators in michigan about what he knew and we had obtained the audio there. this is what he said to the michigan prosecutors so i ended up explaining that arizona was still hypothetically possible because the autumn >> electors have voted and i explained to the whole logic, because the author electors have voted, we had more tied with litigation. so it was i think clear in a way that maybe you hadn't been before that we had till january 6, two to win so that would be ken chesebro talking about a december 2020 meeting with donald trump. that's something that he has shared with prosecutors, not just in michigan where that sound bite came from, but also something we know he may be asked about in arizona where he
who is getting there are a lot of questions about john eastman. and on top of that, kate, we know that one of the things the arizona prosecutors have done now is spoken to ken chesebro. he was one of the top lawyers working around people like eastman and others with trump to organize these fake electors can chesebro previously spoke to investigators in michigan about what he knew and we had obtained the audio there. this is what he said to the michigan prosecutors so i ended up explaining that...
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. >>> and a judge is recommending that conservative attorney john eastman lose his california law license. eastman faces 11 disciplinary charges in state bar court yesterday. it stemmed from his role in trying to have then-vice president mike pence interfere with the certification of joe biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election. the case now goes to the california supreme court. >>> now to a cbs news exclusive. we're hearing for the first time from a family of a former boeing manager who became a whistleblower. john barnett died earlier this month just before he was set to testify in a lawsuit against the airline manufacturer. he'd accused boeing of repeatedly ignoring safety issues. mark strassmann spoke with his mother and brother. >>> thought of himself as trying to do the right thing. >> reporter: vicky stokes' son john barnett worked at boeing for 32 years, the last seven as a quality manager at the south carolina factory that builds the 787 dreamliner. how did he tell you he was being treated? >> he was like embarrassed at meetings. he would be called out. >> reporter: not
. >>> and a judge is recommending that conservative attorney john eastman lose his california law license. eastman faces 11 disciplinary charges in state bar court yesterday. it stemmed from his role in trying to have then-vice president mike pence interfere with the certification of joe biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election. the case now goes to the california supreme court. >>> now to a cbs news exclusive. we're hearing for the first time from a family of a...
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. >>> john eastman went before a judge in california that suspended his law licenses and recommendedisbarred. he said eastman worked to misinform the courts. >>> and then my pillow is ordered to move out of the country after failing to pay rent. the creator, mike lindell, faces lawsuits against him. shortly after, a different judge told donald trump not to attack the staff, and then trump posted criticism of the judge's daughter, and she had posted a picture of him behind bars, and they claim she canceled that account sometime ago and they don't know who runs it currently. marcus? >> thank you so much, scott. >>> maybe a half step backwards for draymond green after an important game last night in orlando. every game matters at this point, and four minutes into the game green got into it with the refers who lost their patience, and he was tossed out after two technical fouls. nothing physical, just the language. the warriors were able to hold on to the final playoff seed. >>> how about a story that is sure to hit a fever pitch with everybody just hoping to strike it rich. >> you hit t
. >>> john eastman went before a judge in california that suspended his law licenses and recommendedisbarred. he said eastman worked to misinform the courts. >>> and then my pillow is ordered to move out of the country after failing to pay rent. the creator, mike lindell, faces lawsuits against him. shortly after, a different judge told donald trump not to attack the staff, and then trump posted criticism of the judge's daughter, and she had posted a picture of him behind...
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john eastman who tried to overturn the last election would probably be the head of the justice department >> with clark. >> people who tried to overturn it. mattises, kelly's, everything who kept it on the rail. nobody is joining the administration. who he chooses as his vice-president is not mike pence or somebody who says if your scenario kamala harris is the vice-president who makes it harder for the electors stealing things around fyi in that scenario. i don't think people are alarmed-- i don't think it's american carnage. you talk about burning the boats in the good way that i think that nikki haley is in the good way. there's a good and bad way. and some are saying i'm going to ride this trump thing to the end and i'm going to do whatever i want and punish my enemies and we're all getting audited in this room if trump is the-- >> at a minimum. >> at minimum. and so i sort of try to-- anytime i feel tired i hold those scenarios in my head to think about just how bad it could be and the thing is it's not just most of the people in congress who would have stood up to him the last time
john eastman who tried to overturn the last election would probably be the head of the justice department >> with clark. >> people who tried to overturn it. mattises, kelly's, everything who kept it on the rail. nobody is joining the administration. who he chooses as his vice-president is not mike pence or somebody who says if your scenario kamala harris is the vice-president who makes it harder for the electors stealing things around fyi in that scenario. i don't think people are...
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and a judge in california recommended that former trump election attorney john eastman be disbarred. trial over what eastman did to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election. eastman is also among those facing charges in georgia for alleged election interference. the california supreme court will use yesterday's opinion to determine whether to revoke the law. license of eastman nurses at the regional medical center in san jose held a rally to call attention to the critical services that will soon be cut. >> the regional medical center says it is downsizing the trauma center due to the lower number of patients in need of those services and the regulatory requirements involved. the nurses say not having critical services readily available means patients suffering from a stroke or heart attack will lose those life saving services. >> the reason that we're out here today is to raise awareness in this community, because i don't think people really understand what's going on in, come august 12th, the hospital is going to be doing away with comprehensive trauma services, comprehensive
and a judge in california recommended that former trump election attorney john eastman be disbarred. trial over what eastman did to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election. eastman is also among those facing charges in georgia for alleged election interference. the california supreme court will use yesterday's opinion to determine whether to revoke the law. license of eastman nurses at the regional medical center in san jose held a rally to call attention to the critical services that...
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on wednesday, a judge in california ruled that john eastman, the architect of trump's fake lectures three scheme should be disbarred for his role in pushing the big lie. trump lawyers kenneth chaz roe, john ellis, and sidney powell have all pleaded guilty in the ongoing criminal case in georgia for their roles in that scheme. eastman, along with jeffrey clark and rudy giuliani, is still awaiting trial in that case. while, jeffrey clark is facing discipline from the d.c. bar, rudy giuliani has had his law license suspended, and giuliani is also on the hook for $148 million in damages that he owes to georgia poll workers he defamed. rudy giuliani and sidney powell are still facing defamation lawsuits from the voting machine companies dominion and smart maddock. so, it's seemingly taken forever, but the people involved in this are actually starting to be held accountable for pushing the big lie. that doesn't put the genie back in the bottle. recent polling from the washington post shows that more americans now believe the 2020 election was rigged than they did in 2021. i should stop to say,
on wednesday, a judge in california ruled that john eastman, the architect of trump's fake lectures three scheme should be disbarred for his role in pushing the big lie. trump lawyers kenneth chaz roe, john ellis, and sidney powell have all pleaded guilty in the ongoing criminal case in georgia for their roles in that scheme. eastman, along with jeffrey clark and rudy giuliani, is still awaiting trial in that case. while, jeffrey clark is facing discipline from the d.c. bar, rudy giuliani has...
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i think the disbarment of john eastman and the charges against jeffrey clark are appropriate and sends a message to lawyers who violate the response abilities and their oath as lawyers in the name of defending someone was become a demigod. >> thank you for being here. for those watching right now, make sure you get the book. it is selling out fast and is amazing. >>> still to come on "the katie phang show" , fundraising face- off. after blockbuster call for president biden at a recent event for president biden in the city, trump says he plans to be 10. >>> the campaign targeting nikki haley voters. and the democratic lo mein voting blitz coming. keep it right here on msnbc. n . an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. meet the jennifers. jen x. jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in portugal with some help from j.p. morgan wealth
i think the disbarment of john eastman and the charges against jeffrey clark are appropriate and sends a message to lawyers who violate the response abilities and their oath as lawyers in the name of defending someone was become a demigod. >> thank you for being here. for those watching right now, make sure you get the book. it is selling out fast and is amazing. >>> still to come on "the katie phang show" , fundraising face- off. after blockbuster call for president...
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a judge in california has recommended that former trump election lawyer john eastman be disbarred. eged election interference. the california supreme court will use yesterday's opinion to determine whether to revoke eastman's law license. >> a winter weather advisory is in effect for the greater lake tahoe area. light snow all day caused low visibility for drivers heading up on 80 or highway 50. we can switch over to give you a live look now at what's happening on highway 50, right near the entrance to sierra at tahoe ski resort. a little bit of snow still coming down, and there's a whole lot more on the way. chain controls are currently in effect on both highway 50 and interstate 80. keep this in mind if you plan to head up to the mountains this weekend. >> they said 30, but turn out to be a lot worse. >> so far it's been fine and up until we started climbing through the through 80, once we started hitting the snow, it got real bad. >> go slow. take your time. when they say chains don't wait, just put the chains on. >> high winds might also hit the sierra. so do expect some delays
a judge in california has recommended that former trump election lawyer john eastman be disbarred. eged election interference. the california supreme court will use yesterday's opinion to determine whether to revoke eastman's law license. >> a winter weather advisory is in effect for the greater lake tahoe area. light snow all day caused low visibility for drivers heading up on 80 or highway 50. we can switch over to give you a live look now at what's happening on highway 50, right near...
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now, this big news comes as a california judge has ruled against trump lawyer john eastman today who also separately awaits a criminal trial in georgia. and these mounting legal setbacks for eastman are significant because he was the legal mastermind and architect of key planks of the coup plots as those january 6th hearings showed. >> adopt a slate of electors yourselves. >> he started to ask me about something dealing with georgia, preserving something potentially for appeal. >> i don't think it's just your authority to do that, but quite frankly i think you have a duty to do that. >> did eastman admit before the president it would violate the electoral count act? >> mr. eastman acknowledged that was the case, even what he viewed as am more palatable option would violate several provisions. >> i said to him are you out of your effing mind. i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on -- orderly transition. >> orderly transition. those damning accounts came from people who generally backed donald trump's policies but did stop short of the coup eastman was plott
now, this big news comes as a california judge has ruled against trump lawyer john eastman today who also separately awaits a criminal trial in georgia. and these mounting legal setbacks for eastman are significant because he was the legal mastermind and architect of key planks of the coup plots as those january 6th hearings showed. >> adopt a slate of electors yourselves. >> he started to ask me about something dealing with georgia, preserving something potentially for appeal....
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this is as a california judge ruled against trump lawyer john eastman today who separately awaits trial in georgia. mounting legal setbacks are significant because he was legal master mind and architect of key planks of the coup plot as january 6 hearings showed. >> he started to ask me about e something dealing with georgia g and preserving something potentially for appeal. >> i don't think it's your authority but frankly i think you have a duty. >> did dr. eastman admit his proposal would violate the electorial act. >> he acknowledged that was the case, even what he viewed as more politically palatable option would violate provisions. >> i said are you out of your effing mind? i want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. >> orderly transition. that's about eastman as described by trump administration colleagues. those accounts came from people who generally backed donald trump's policy and ideology but stopped short of the authoritarian coup eastman was plotting on trump's behalf. should be disbarred or dispelled over his conduct in the plots, jud
this is as a california judge ruled against trump lawyer john eastman today who separately awaits trial in georgia. mounting legal setbacks are significant because he was legal master mind and architect of key planks of the coup plot as january 6 hearings showed. >> he started to ask me about e something dealing with georgia g and preserving something potentially for appeal. >> i don't think it's your authority but frankly i think you have a duty. >> did dr. eastman admit his...
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they include his former chief of staff mark meadows and attorneys rudy giuliani, john eastman, ray smithtried to persuade georgia elected officials to violate their oaths of office and overturn mr. trump's narrow defeat in the state's 2020 presidential election. contain all the essential elements of the crimes but fail to sufficient detail regarding the nature of their commission. >> it goes to the sloppiness of frankly the prosecutors down there. >> if district attorney fani willis chooses not to appeal the judge's decision, legal scholars say she could try a simpler case on the 35 remaining charges. but the six counts in question are really at the heart of her legal theory. >> these are the one set of charges that speak to the constitution and to the constitutional order and to the heart of democracy, which i think is what's been motivating fani willis all along. >> these counts could be essentially revived if they want to go back to the grand jury but that will eat up calendar space. it may make it difficult to try the case before the election. >> judge mcafee is still considering a d
they include his former chief of staff mark meadows and attorneys rudy giuliani, john eastman, ray smithtried to persuade georgia elected officials to violate their oaths of office and overturn mr. trump's narrow defeat in the state's 2020 presidential election. contain all the essential elements of the crimes but fail to sufficient detail regarding the nature of their commission. >> it goes to the sloppiness of frankly the prosecutors down there. >> if district attorney fani willis...
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>>> john eastman and jeffrey clark found themselves a few steps closer to being disbarred.have been identified as co- conspirators and trump's federal election interference case. >> we talk about the lack of accountability. as alicia noted, there are some of the foot soldiers and the lieutenants, if you will in the donald trump maga army that are seeing accountability. this too is an important piece. >> it is an important piece. and we were talking about the court system earlier. this is the bar association. we all have to have law licenses to practice since it is the bar association that decide that we are working in accordance with those. that includes an oath very similar to the oath of office. this is one of the reasons why this matters. trump attorneys are making decisions that are in the benefit of trump that have nothing to do with the law or the appropriate behavior of the lawyer. it is because we have this kind of process where the bar association's themselves make the decisions about the accountability we are seeing and we saw it with rudy giuliani as well. here i
>>> john eastman and jeffrey clark found themselves a few steps closer to being disbarred.have been identified as co- conspirators and trump's federal election interference case. >> we talk about the lack of accountability. as alicia noted, there are some of the foot soldiers and the lieutenants, if you will in the donald trump maga army that are seeing accountability. this too is an important piece. >> it is an important piece. and we were talking about the court system...
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on wednesday john eastman, the author of the infamous eastman memo, the plan to throw the legitimatesults by using false claims was recommended for disbarment in california by a judge on the state hearing department. after a full process including witnesses and testimony they wrote the evidence clearly and convincingly proves the entered into an agreement to obstruct the joint session of congress on january 6. he is now on what is known as involuntary inactive status. the recommendation agosta the california supreme court who will ultimately decide if he will be permanently disbarred. across the country in washington dc the former civil lawyer who headed up the environment and natural resources division of the department of justice who they briefly flirted with installing as the acting attorney general in order to launder his election lies and in fact according to clark's on lawyer for a few brief hours was the acting attorney general. facing his own disciplinary hearing for his role in his coup attempt. that is not me using that language. that is the language of the washington dc of
on wednesday john eastman, the author of the infamous eastman memo, the plan to throw the legitimatesults by using false claims was recommended for disbarment in california by a judge on the state hearing department. after a full process including witnesses and testimony they wrote the evidence clearly and convincingly proves the entered into an agreement to obstruct the joint session of congress on january 6. he is now on what is known as involuntary inactive status. the recommendation agosta...
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rudy giuliani, sidney powell, john eastman and others were very hard at work impugning elections withlaims that were at best, shaky. at worst, outright lies like rudy giuliani's claim of ruby friedman committing election crimes. alex cannon took the totality of my findings, which was that we did not find sufficient fraud anywhere to overturn an election result and all of the other claims were false. in his january 6th deposition testimony, he told the january 6th committee that he brought the findings of no fog darkly to mark meadows. he told mark meadows we did not find fraud. mark meadows excepted the finding is true. in the last few months, we have seen news stories that save mark meadows hold jackson's investigators that he had been taken the message that no credible fraud was found into the oval office. >> there are a lot of people in this country who should read your book. i will get the name again. "disproven: my unbiased search for voter fraud for the trump campaign, the data that shows why he lost, and how we can improve our elections" thank you very much for the conversation
rudy giuliani, sidney powell, john eastman and others were very hard at work impugning elections withlaims that were at best, shaky. at worst, outright lies like rudy giuliani's claim of ruby friedman committing election crimes. alex cannon took the totality of my findings, which was that we did not find sufficient fraud anywhere to overturn an election result and all of the other claims were false. in his january 6th deposition testimony, he told the january 6th committee that he brought the...
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it's not just judgeships, john eastman, is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right?cause of his participation in trying to overturn the election. one of the more extreme examples but a good one. the other one is john you who wrote the torture memos under john ingram. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary's, either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write, and i'm sure that crystal clanton will be set along the same path when she graduates from this boot camp. >> this is clarence thomas's army. mark joseph stern, it's always great to talk to you. >>> that's our show for this evening, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening and welcome back, lawrence. >> mike manley is over there, right over there, and he's got the three presidents, and
it's not just judgeships, john eastman, is a former clarence thomas law clerk, is that right?cause of his participation in trying to overturn the election. one of the more extreme examples but a good one. the other one is john you who wrote the torture memos under john ingram. not all of these individuals go directly into the judiciary's, either way, they are preaching from the gospel that clarence thomas helped to write, and i'm sure that crystal clanton will be set along the same path when...
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first just moments ago, a california judge recommended that the man you see they are, to plotter john eastman, should lose his license to practice law. he was one of the masterminds behind the failed plot to get congress to reject the election. his unwillingness to regard any ethical lapses, demonstrating an apparent lack of ability to accept responsibility. poses a significant risk that he may engage in further unethical conduct, compounding the threat to the public. meanwhile, one of his fellow coup plotters, who trump tried to install as attorney general in the waning days of the administration, had a disciplinary hearing before the d.c. bar association. he was a huge proponent of the big lie. trump wanted to put him in charge of the waning days of his presidency so clark could weapon is the authority of the department of justice and send letters to everyone to say the election is rigged and no one needs to certified so they could overturn the results. he has even been criminally charged in the state of georgia for his role in the plot. the bar association is looking at whether or not he s
first just moments ago, a california judge recommended that the man you see they are, to plotter john eastman, should lose his license to practice law. he was one of the masterminds behind the failed plot to get congress to reject the election. his unwillingness to regard any ethical lapses, demonstrating an apparent lack of ability to accept responsibility. poses a significant risk that he may engage in further unethical conduct, compounding the threat to the public. meanwhile, one of his...
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now, another lawyer who's operating on the outside, john eastman, also could be disbarred in his statere he practices, california. he also faces a potential rico trial in georgia. and like clark, eastman, as you can see we put both videos together, also faced a federal search. both these videos on your screen are part of the process of accountability. and again, for those in a rush it takes time. you have to go do the search diligently, go over the evidence, afford people their time and rights. this same d.c. ethics board is evaluating for this. now, the acting attorney general during this big hearing in january, jeffrey rosen, famously told congress during the investigation that the plan clark was cooking up was extreme and that had trump stuck to it it would have led to a nixonian saturday night massacre, a wave of resignations heading into january 6th. >> if mr. clark and his approach, which was not based on the facts as we knew them, was to be pursued, then there would be resignations at the justice department of all the senior leaders and maybe -- maybe others as well. >> so what
now, another lawyer who's operating on the outside, john eastman, also could be disbarred in his statere he practices, california. he also faces a potential rico trial in georgia. and like clark, eastman, as you can see we put both videos together, also faced a federal search. both these videos on your screen are part of the process of accountability. and again, for those in a rush it takes time. you have to go do the search diligently, go over the evidence, afford people their time and rights....
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. >>> coming up, former trump lawyers and election deniers, john eastman and jeffrey clark are in a majorris jansing reports" right after this. se more "chris jansing reports" right after this care of your i? that means less stress for you. >> woman: thanks. >> tech: my pleasure. have a good one. >> woman: you too. >> tech: schedule today at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ zyrtec allergy relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours so dave can be the... deliverer of dance. ok, dave! let's be more than our allergies. zeize the day with zyrtec. smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; seri
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. >> out in california, there's a related argument, the former trump attorney john eastman, the architectthe fake electors scheme, according to the allegations, one of the co-defendants, could be disbarred in california. the state supreme court has to give final approval. but there's been a preliminary ruling. what do you think? >> precisely right. if you think about punishments that can be given to attorneys, one might be prison. mr. eastman is facing charges in georgia. if prison is the most serious punishment a lawyer for misconduct can receive, the next has to be losing your license to practice law. according to this judge, the language that she used when she issued this order, his name should be stricken from the list of lawyers in california. he has a temporary disbarment while he goes up on appeal to the california supreme court. that is as serious a punishment, absent being put in prison, as a lawyer can receive. it ought to serve as discouragement to any other attorney who would similarly take up these false claims as it relates to the 2020 elections, or any false claims that rel
. >> out in california, there's a related argument, the former trump attorney john eastman, the architectthe fake electors scheme, according to the allegations, one of the co-defendants, could be disbarred in california. the state supreme court has to give final approval. but there's been a preliminary ruling. what do you think? >> precisely right. if you think about punishments that can be given to attorneys, one might be prison. mr. eastman is facing charges in georgia. if prison...
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tony thurman, a state bar judge in california has recommended that former trump election lawyer john eastman be disbarred. >> the opinion comes after a trial over eastman's actions to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election. eastman is also among those facing charges in georgia for alleged election interference. the california supreme court will use today's opinion to determine whether to revoke eastman's law license tonight. >> new video from inside rapper sean diddy combs los angeles home after it was raided by federal agents. the footage shows multiple rooms in shambles following the search on monday. the raid, reportedly tied to a sex trafficking investigation following several lawsuits against the rap artist. combs is home in miami, was also searched. he was not at either of the properties when the agents moved in, tmz says. it appears the feds did not hold back. >> they really went in and did not hold back in their attempt to find whatever it is that they were looking for. well, if you look closely in the video, you could see drawers pulled, you can see safes broken into, they b
tony thurman, a state bar judge in california has recommended that former trump election lawyer john eastman be disbarred. >> the opinion comes after a trial over eastman's actions to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election. eastman is also among those facing charges in georgia for alleged election interference. the california supreme court will use today's opinion to determine whether to revoke eastman's law license tonight. >> new video from inside rapper sean diddy combs...
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coconspirators have been charged criminally, and they will have to go on trial for mark meadows to john eastman, to rudy giuliani. you can go on all the list they will be almost certainly on trial even if donald trump is on serving as president and ryan, a quick response to that, and it will be televised in these cases, right? so if it's trump, but also others. so we, we, the voters will see all of this 100% and this is the only case that will be nationally televised. the federal cases will not, and the new york case will not. this will have a national audience everyday. that's, it's before the trial, and it will be those days leading into the election, possibly if she gets she gets what she wants in the trial date. all right. thanks so much to both of you and next and out front investigation, the texas governor greg abbott says donation not public money, is being used to boss the migrants to blue states. but that does not add up >> that's my name, that's my phone number. but i definitely didn't give $2,000 to greg abbott's campaign up button people. do you see justin, mike pence officially say
coconspirators have been charged criminally, and they will have to go on trial for mark meadows to john eastman, to rudy giuliani. you can go on all the list they will be almost certainly on trial even if donald trump is on serving as president and ryan, a quick response to that, and it will be televised in these cases, right? so if it's trump, but also others. so we, we, the voters will see all of this 100% and this is the only case that will be nationally televised. the federal cases will...
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john eastman, the former trump lawyer, now facing disbarment has been my guest here discussing his role in the january 6 rally doctors, scott atlas and jay about acharya from stanford both spoke to me here about herd immunity in the context of covid even january 6 is q and on shaman, after he got out of jail and announced he was running for congress, i could continue. sean spicer, kellyanne conway, kari lake, roger waters. they've all been my guest congress said drain the swamp >> i've read, i've read all the texts. the texts make it very clear that we weren't even going to give the guy a meeting unless he was first prepared to investigate the bidens. i need to do something about well that shouldn't happen. why not take the win? because if you don't it looks like trump is now acting like nixon or john connally on reagan's behalf to just try and save the win for himself. any why don't you say that? and why didn't trump's sat at my gosh, i haven't heard. it sounds like you're not even taking ownership of walk through that door you know, there were so many others that i invited who you pro
john eastman, the former trump lawyer, now facing disbarment has been my guest here discussing his role in the january 6 rally doctors, scott atlas and jay about acharya from stanford both spoke to me here about herd immunity in the context of covid even january 6 is q and on shaman, after he got out of jail and announced he was running for congress, i could continue. sean spicer, kellyanne conway, kari lake, roger waters. they've all been my guest congress said drain the swamp >> i've...
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this doesn't protect criminal conduct and as recently as last night, the california bar rejected john eastman, one of the attorney architects of this whole thing, rejected his first amendment claim. so this isn't going to go anywhere. this first amendment argument important information. >> jennifer trump's attorney claims his false statements in the indictment are protected by the first amendment and can't be prosecuted. how do you see ocean? >> georgia? >> well, he's right in the sense that false statements can be protected by the first amendment. they're not unprotected just because they're false. >> but it's also the >> case that speech can be part of a crime and you can't say just because words were coming out of your mouth that you're protected from committing that crime. i mean, think about a bank robber who walks into a bank and says stick them up. i'm here to rob the bank. you can still chin with bank robbery and it's not like he can say, well, you can't use that statement against me because i was speaking words out of my mouth. it's sorted the same thing here. so trump's statements a
this doesn't protect criminal conduct and as recently as last night, the california bar rejected john eastman, one of the attorney architects of this whole thing, rejected his first amendment claim. so this isn't going to go anywhere. this first amendment argument important information. >> jennifer trump's attorney claims his false statements in the indictment are protected by the first amendment and can't be prosecuted. how do you see ocean? >> georgia? >> well, he's right in...