back with us is john edson from lunar.designus is the vp at a company that makes cases for iphones and ipads. so what is a day like today like for you when you do not nestle know do not necessarily what is coming but it has an effect on your business? >> everybody here loves the apple announcement spirit we are all in a room and watching the video, anxiously awaiting what they are going to announce. status,you find out the are you right away going into high gear trying to make new cases is to let you have the prepared or do you wait? >> we have been reading the rumors for months and running through scenarios and thingsating any sort of that they might an ounce. we have been running through scenarios. we have heard the rumors about ones, so we thinner try to do as much preparation as we can. but we never know for sure until the announcement. airill the new ipad and mini be different from the current ones? >> in terms of design, probably not. we are expecting them to continue their design trend, this very kind of german, gra

secretary of state john kerry sitting down with chinese's foreign minister in washington, d.c. rich edson live at the white house with details. rich, has it started yet? >> david, liz, there was round number one this afternoon. the state department added yet another round between secretary of state john kerry and foreign minister of china. part of the discussions were protests in hong kong. generally speaking state department officials say that the u.s. said resolving human rights issues in china would help make that country stronger. the u.s. has been somewhat reluctant to directly criticize china, at least overtly on this

john kerry. fox business's rich edson is at the white house with more. rich what can you tell us about this?e state department officials say they expect this issue, the protests going on in hong kong, to come up in that meeting. the white house and administration have been very, very cautious what they have been say about this in public. secretary of state john kerry only aing that they believe in open society, highest degree of autonomy is essential for stability within hong kong. meeting right now with the chinese foreign minister and laying the foundation for president obama's trip to china next month. this as protests continue to swell in hong kong, up to six days there. perhaps a sign they might be escalating. student leaders want the chief executive of hong kong to resign, if not they say they plan on expanding protests, occupying government buildings. this as the standoff continues and economy there lost billions of dollars according to local estimates. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thanks so much. bring in the panel with more o reaction to the riding protests in hong kong. steve

secretary of state john kerry sitting down with chinese's foreign minister in washington, d.c. rich edson white house with details. rich, has it started yet? >> david, liz, there was round number one this afternoon. the state department added yet another round between secretary of state john kerry and foreign minister of china. part of the discussions were protests in hong kong. generally speaking state department officials say that the u.s. said resolving human rights issues in china would help make that country stronger. the u.s. has been somewhat reluctant to directly criticize china, at least overtly on this secretary of state john kerry cautiously commented on the protests in hong kong. >> as china knows, we support universal sufferage in hong kong. accordingly the basic law. and we belief in an open society with the highest possible degree of autonomy and governed by rule of law is essential for hong kong's stability and prosperity. and we have high hopes that the hong kong authorities will exercise restraint and respect the protesters right to express their views peacefully. >> thi