by 2018, john edwards was telling news outlets -- sorry, john kerry was telling news outlets, callingre up as vice presidential candidate, because seven years after carrie and edwards lost the 2004 presidential election, john edwards became americas first national political candidate to be indicted for scheme to pay hush money to add mistrust to cover up an affair. >> with his daughter, kate by his side, john edwards took responsibility for doing wrong. but not for breaking the law. >> i did not break the law. i have never thought about breaking the law. >> almost 1 million dollars provided by two wealthy donors, and according to the government, the money was used to hide his mattress, brio hunter, and later their child, while he ran for president. the six count indictment alleges the payments constituted unlawful campaign contributions, and accuses edwards of soliciting and covering them up, saying that he knew that if it became public, it would undermine his image as a family man, and it would destroy his candidacy. >> nobody ever been charged, either civilly or criminally, the clai

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it is not good for gary hart it is not good for john edwards even though john edwards was acquitted. he was acquitted before favorable jersey in north carolina. he was a popular figure there. truck may not be that popular new york. that is our jury system. those cases are not really precedent here. we should not refuse to prosecute trump because john edwards was successful in front of a north carolina jury. that just really is not relevant to exchanges and chicago democrats library. >> one question for the guests. is it illegal for some to call the state's attorney after an election asked him to find more boats? thank you. >> to call a states attorney questions going back to the issues in georgia and the focal the president made at the time. oh. that is going to be a question of fact we called the secretary state of georgia can you find me some more boats?as i'm sure he'll take the position he wasn't saying do something improper he was simply saying can't you keepki counting? these figures are not corrected. whether a georgia jury will believe him or not i do not know. the evidence i

can we go and not understanding the argument with john edwards? are they arguing for it to be adjudicated because john edwards was adjudicated, and then he was and then he was acquitted. so why are they making that comparison ? it seems like it's doing exactly the opposite of what they want to occur. john edwards defense was these payments were not campaign related. they were nobody had to go to court. he had to go to work prove that trump if he has to go to court and defend himself on a similar campaign finance charges would be state instead of federal. you can see that he's gearing up to make a similar. don't want to go to court. right but if he i mean he can't avoid going to trial on that. that's a trial defense, ultimately, okay? okay well, that's what's happening here. we're still going to wait to see what the grand jury does today. there's the other investigation that is the special counsel's investigation into january. 6th what's happening so big this ruling from a federal judge that the people you see there? mark meadows, stephen miller, d

so this is the john edwards defensive. remember john edwards ran for president in 2008, and it was came out afterwards that he had to donors paying nearly a million dollars to silence hush money to his mistress. john edwards. mistress was pregnant at the time. remember there was that affect his wife was sick as well. john edwards went to trial. he beat the case. one count was acquitted. the other counselor hung doj, dismissed the case because, he argued, the purpose of these payments was not campaign related. it was personal. and also look for trump. we just heard joe tacopina to make a similar defense and giuliani early on with this actually came out. remember the pre giuliani days when he was actually considered to be an attorney for donald president? trump he made the same arguments. remember what's different about the john edwards case? the payments were largely made before even the primary season, a year before presidential year, you did not have the threat of the person coming out to actually air the story, which is

let's bring in bloomberg's john edwards. you have been with us all week. have heard a lot of different realtors -- from different retailers. analysts said, i wish we would see a membership price hike because that is how good the earnings out -- earnings were. is that enough to take the stock? >> i guess there is disappointment that a hike hasn't come around yet. the company is saying it is a matter of when and not if. we will see that membership fee go up sometime later in this year. overall, cosco is seeing what i think a lot of retailers have reported this season, which is basically results are good right now. they are concerned that the consumer might he weakening as we go deeper into the year, especially when it comes to as the cfo was saying, as higher priced this questionnaire he items that people are shying away from as in flesh and nine -- as inflation remains elevated. kriti: it is a tough place for cosco to be if there is some sort of consumer slowdown. isn't there value proposition supposed to be beneficial to consumers at this time where they a

why is this case different than the john edwards case? well, first of all, i am familiar with the giant neighborhoods case. the top prosecutor in the justice department and i rolled prints from my white house stays with president clinton. the defense lawyer, abby lowell, who represented john edwards, so let me tell you what the law is there in there's been misstated, even by my old friend joe tacopina, who i've worked with not on this matter. i wish him well, but i don't wish his client will the law says any political motivation. it can be 1% not primary political motivation, so a jury is going to have to decide. do they believe donald trump waiting until the very end in october with two weeks left in the election? suddenly deciding? okay it's time, michael. you pay the money, but i don't want to be connected with it, but i'll reimburse you and that's the word that the prosecutors in new york said reimbursed or reimburse you afterwards for the $130,000. will the jury believe donald trump that he had no idea that it would influence the ele

not surprisingly, john edwards was acquitted in that case. it was a humiliating defeat for the obama administration but also sent a clear message and sent a precedent which alvin bragg is apparently ignoring. we don't know what the federal indictment says. if trump is indicted for sending money to stormy daniels, well, you'll be watching the abuse of law enforcement power. oh, but you can't complain about it, because as congresswoman maxine waters has explained, political protests staged on behalf of donald trump aren't constitutionally protected. they're domestic terrorism. >> this is donald trump sending messages out to domestic terrorists that he's worked with and he helped to organize for the invasion of the capitol on january 5th, he's sending out a message to them to get ready to protest any arrests, indictments, etc. that he may have. so he's basically talking to the proud boys, to qanon and kkk. >> tucker: oh, january 6th. the only real organized group on january 6th was the fbi, of course. consider the side and where it's coming from

and he brought the john edwards case. these are very difficult to win because the law is not clear. is that fair? if you're alvin bragg, how hard of a case is this going to be? >> i don't know the facts and i don't know what evidence they have in documents and i don't know what the testimony the grand jury has been, and i don't think anybody is saying it's a slam dunk case and i don't think anyone is saying it's an open and shut matter. >> the way i hear it, wow, it sounds like a mediator. >> it sounds like you have it right. it's a provable case. you have challenges like in any case and issues of credibility with respect to michael cohen who is a key witness in the case. maybe he'll be able to persuade the jury not withstanding the judge, but insofar as even a little bit of the motive was related to personal embarrassment. that's not campaign finance violation, that's not the instruction the judge is going to give. nobody's saying it's an easy, easy case. i will make another point, though, as people attack alvin bragg an

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john edwards -- it is a bit apples and oranges comparing john edwards and what he has done with donaldp. donald trump has a much longer history, there are many more indications here of what donald trump did terms of influencing the election. ultimately, it is going to be up to a jury to decide whether or not these payments, these falsified business records, were done with the intent to influence the election. the question is, wilthe ju decide the with a edwards jury decides? we don't know that. certainly, the donald trump defense use that in the media and elsewhere to talk about the case against trump and what it should not result in amy: amy: conviction. is there a statute of limitations here? >> that is an interesting question. the idea ithe statutof limitation was stopped and additional time was added. because of cuomo -- andrew cuomo said we are pulling a variety of things because of covid. so that is one. there's also a question as to tolling generically under the procedure law. i assume that defense will raise that issue. it appears yes and fact the case can go forward because th

democrat candidate john edwards acquitted of campaign finance charges in 2012.ber, when he gave money to pregnant mistress. if the indictment alleges hush money violated campaign finance laws, then wouldn't the trump lawyers argue that it fails what is called irrespective test and trump would have paid daniels anyway regardless of the campaign to avoid embarrass member because he was a public figure. >> this has echoes of john edwards case. i think what it tells you that jurors take a common sense approach. no matter what arguments the prosecutors put out there, the jurors look at the conduct and they say, look, what really was going on here. we want to get to the bottom of this, we want to do justice and we don't necessarily agree with the story that the prosecutor is spinning and that's the conclusion in the john edwards reached and may be the case that result that the jurors in a potential trump case reach. liz: you guys were terrific tonight, thanks for helping us out. >> thank you. liz: the federal reserve kicked off two-day meeting. it's dealing with major

john edwards was acquitted in virginia by what was seen as a friendly jury there. but in new york, as gregg jarrett told us earlier, trump's hope has to land on appeal. because he's fighting everything including the jury of new york city. >> this is insane. i mean, think of it, will, you're a real lawyer. i mean, do you believe we're actually having this conversation where we're saying, well, listen, whatever behavior the guy's accused of or not, that's his personal business. i'm not suggesting you have to agree with it or not, but we're saying he's probably going to be convicted for at worsting some -- if it's even true, by the way concern the for some personal discretion he chose to solve his own way or his team? and we're like, oh, he's already going to be convicted of a fake crime. this is a conversation you and i having on the world's largest cable news show. it's probably already over. he'll probably be convicted by a bunch of lewin lunatic concern lunatics on a jury, and all he can hope is the appeals judge a too isn't a lunatic like the people in the lunati

this is former democratic vice presidential nominee and democratic senator john edwards. that's his mug shot from 2011, looking good, john edwards. not looking as good, this is dan, mr. rostenkowski. he was chairman of the ways and means committee in congress for three years, until he had to stop doing that, because it was time for him to stop being a congressman and start being prisoner number 25338-016. it happens. it happens a lot. here was bernie kerik, the new york police commissioner only rudolph giuliani. on giuliani's recommendation, president bush tried to make this guy homeland security secretary of the united states until that ended as prison 210-707. it happens, so much so we have a thing in mind when we think what an elected official's mug shot looks like. i mean, there are ones that are more special than others. the congressman james traficant mug shot will always be remembered more as kind of a hairdo hall of fame thing than a congressman thing. wow. it's still really something all these years later. but apart from him, there is something familiar enough ab

john edwards a third party paid for john edwards' mistress who was pregnant with his baby that was a third party that was a donor he was acquitted, and the doj dropped all charges on the hung council on that. this is different. this is donald trump paying with his own money. here's where this case falls miserably. i'm his lawyer you will expect that from me you have legal scholars, members of the election committee stated there was no crime here. here's the deal. first of all, crucial distinction between separating campaign funds from personal funds. on personal funneled usage, here's the bright line test. if the spending or the fulfillment of a commitment or expenditure would exister respective of a campaign, it's not a campaign violation this would have existed independent of the campaign. >> you're making a case this would have existed regardless. >> it's not what i'm saying. his lawyer who's now a cooperator said this under oath. >> can you point to other payments trump made like this outside of a campaign? >> during the time of the campaign >> outside of that campaign year in hi

where this was, they go after donald trump for paying off a prostitute, but they didn't go after john edwards like your guest said. he had been in a friendly court, they didn't convict him. donald trump is a new york red so of course, they will convict him. all of the stuff with hunter biden. they're going after trump, and nobody, not one person is saying a word about the money to joe biden, coming in from china and those dirty deals. hillary clinton. she never paid. >> terrell is in kentucky, republican. go ahead. >> nice having you on the air. i was listening here a minute ago. i would agree it all comes after president trump right here for something he did not do, but if he did pay her off, i never hear anything more than i care about joe biden, when they find documents, and they're not prosecuting him. or, the special counsel is looking into that, as well as president trump. >> well, that's true, but when they came out dear president trump's car going florida, they busted down his door and help themselves through there. i mean, you can't do that. that is the fourth amendment right there.

senator john edwards. edwards was often describedra as a fiery liberal, but in fact, he was a populist. he ran for president twice. and in the process infuriateds t the leaders of the democratic party by talking way too mucheh about income inequality.. they really hated him for thatdf long after edwards left office,d hi barack obama's doj charged himm with fwith federal finance filir violations. >> so the premise ofemis the tho against john edwards was that he had received a million dollars in giftsan and that he spent that money in hush money payments to his mistress. >> a child. with whom he later had a child. obama's doj argued that the money that edwards sent to his girlfriend amounted to campaign contribution cams. o edwards never reported thatrted money, so obama's doj tried obama' to send him to prison. him >> well, in the end, the case fell apart under the weight ofer its own incoherence.r the weig >> so obama's lawyers argued that anyhtf payment that could conceivably help a political poy is by by

that john edwards charge, that case was more p powerful case to accuse him and to find that edwards wasext. he could say, i paid money, i didn't want to go through embarrassment. this case could -- do you think this could be o won on appeal? >> yes. it is a silly case. i don't think it has any hope of survivor an appeal. like dc, you will probably find a jury in new york that hates donald trump. but, this is also just one of many legal attacks on the former president. we have one in georgia over election alleged interference. we also have the special council looking into alleged mishandles of classified documents, that is all blown up in their face. joe biden has done much worse allegedly, they found now i think classified documents at 4 different locations, they just found them in his lawyer's office in boston, they found them in his home in his messed up gar an,age and office and university of pep pen pennsylvania office. they found documents to trace back to his senate days, which is more peculiar, it is tougher for a senator to have documents than a president or a vice president. th

it rings a little hollow. >> john edwards paid the money to settle that case with donor funds. trump used personal funds. >> the question is, whether it was an fec violence. that was a violation of the rules. $130,000. >> not a campaign contribution. >> it was his own money. private settlement, civil. >> i will ask of alvin bragg, how much is a mug shot worth to you? is it worth losing all your credibility. to be dragged through not just conservatives. you are having liberals saying this is not the case to bring. does this mean that much to you? is that why? the democrats seem willing to actually break norms because of the threat that president trump might one day break norms. part of this also goes to democracy itself. do you know, there's liberal groups and conservative groups that go all over the world to try to council countries that are developing democracies about how you treat opposition. this is not how you treat an opposition. it's a terrible example. especially because all this it was misdemeanor and civil and it wasn't. the president did not shoot somebody on fifth a

. >> that john edwards case the payments were made by a donor. a donor.hat means campaign finance laws are invoked. despite that, they still found that the payments were not made exclusively for the purpose of the campaign. and, therefore the justice department dismissed that case. this was done with personal money, george, that's the key distkeydisdistinct feature it. would have been made irrespective of the candidates' campaign. it's outside campaign finance. >> bret: do you buy that. >> i think that's correct. i don't think it would qualify as a campaign expenditure include it as a campaign. the key is that the john edwards case was a stronger case and the department of justice put everything it had on that case and one of the reasons they likely passed on this. i think everyone agreed that there is no way on everett that this case would have been brought for anyone other than donald trump. this is bragg's manifest destiny. this is what bragg said he was going to do. and he found a rare curious way to publish it. >> gentlemen, we appreciate it. we will

. >> john: and what happened with john edwards in 2012, he was charged with campaign finance violations when he paid off real hunter to quiet about their relationship and love child and the case was made that this was not necessarily to protect the campaign, i mean, if a person has an affair with another person and it could come out and ruin their marriage, of course they are going to give them whatever they need to keep quiet. so the same could be argued here, even though president trump has denied the affair. but the jury bought it, and john edwards walked free and the doj decided they were not going to prosecute him again and so the whole thing went away. >> sandra: we could get some breaking news on all of this in the next hour. we will monitor all of it, john. >> john: looking forward to that. fox news alert, american aid worker abducted has been freed after more than six years in captivity. jeffrey woodke was taken hostage by militants in a west african nation in october of 2016. a second hostage, a french journalist went missings in 2021, also released. it's unclear how they were

you also suggest the john edwards defense may come into play. >> absolutely, john edwards was chargednder very similar circumstances in federal court where it belonged with violating campaign finance laws for having hush money sent to a former extramarital lover. lawyers. anyone would pay hush money candidate or not a candidate to spare themselves or family from embarrassment. that was a successful defense. it's a defense that's fully available here. >> steve: so today the grand jury may hear from robert costello who was an adviser to michael cohen and apparently mre "wall street journal" that cohen told him he paid off stormy daniels to protect melania who had just had a baby which is barron. >> right. extremely unusual for a grand diswror hear from a defense witness. hear from a defendant. that handled in 2 or 3%. to hear from a defense witness very, very rare uphill climb though. >> steve: ultimately, i raid that the jury themselves will vote on whether or not to hear him. grand jurors have to vote whether they want to hear. trial you need unanimous and yard. grand jury just probab

. >> but the -- john edwards avoided conviction in a comparable case.ohn edwards did not testify. >> brian: do you think same judge that presided over the grand jury that was the judge overseeing the case and trial of the trump organization and put the cfo at rikers island? >> he will almost certainly oversee the arraignment. so much time gets passed and time between arraignment and trial. >> ainsley: what happens to trump between arraignment and trial behind bars? >> no. >> steve: given the dynamics being so largely in favor of joe biden in the last election, could donald trump get a fair trial in new york? >> it's going to be very challenging. the judge, his lawyers will seek extremely broad discretion, extremely broad latitude in questioning jurors for potential bias. and the judge should grant that very broad latitude. >> brian: and the timing would be after the 2024 election by the time the jury is said and this gets on the calendar. do you agree with that. >> could be before the 2024. typically case goes to trial in a year march 2024. theaterly ha

father, which means that nato countries that do not divide this night, we hope it will be fast, yes, john edwardu very much, the american diplomat the fifth extraordinary ambassador of the usa in ukraine was in direct contact with us, they talked about the possible consequences and the visit of dvinkin to moscow, the secretary of state anthony blinken announced in a new package additional ammunition for high-mars bradley missiles, harm missiles , anti-tank weapons, river boats, grenade launchers and many many other things in the pentagon noted that the usa will continue to cooperate with allies in order to provide ukraine with everything necessary on the battlefield, president volodymyr zelenskyi in his evening address thanked for the help to our partners, the weight of this decision is 2 billion euros, both the immediate supply and the production of ammunition are provided for, this is a strategic step that adds confidence in our unity, in the immutability of the movement to defeat the terrorist state, and the announcement today of a new defense package from the united states of america, the am

when democrat john edwards was hauled into court for paying hush money he was tried in federal court was acquitted of campaign finance violations. make no mistake. if the democrats indict they are taking a calculated risk that they will win in court and they will stop trump ever holding elective office again. they are also risking the standing of our judicial system. they don't seem to care about that anymore than alvin bragg cares about the violence his policies have brought to new york city. i'm just getting warmed up. the third hour of "varney" starts right now. look whose here. former manhattan d. a. prosecutor elliott falig is with us. great to have you with us because you know what you're talking about, sir. we do appreciate that. >> thank you. stuart: in your professional opinion is this a case of political revenge? >> prosecution is not supposed to be a political game. how else do you explain this prosecution other than politics, as you stated at the top. seven-year-old facts, they've all been known for five years. he's been out of office for two years so if there was a presi

my understanding going back to john edwards case, john edwards was able to get off in part because hes hunter to hide it from his wife, not to win the election kenneth trump have the same defense if they can prove he knew about the payment. >> that's entirely correct, he has to come in and say he was paying to save his marriage she did not want to cause embarrassment to his family there was no intent to do anything about the election, you look at some of the other things trump has been involved with it is credible he was not looking to maliciously break the law but looking to save his marriage and save his family. maria: kemps trostle and the journal says it looks at you not only to splash and but do so with the most pathetic of legal arguments this is not a case of classified documents in the case of transfer of power he wants to jail a former president over the heading on a long-ago business payment, the feebleness of the charge. >> what is disgusting i have a client who is physically attacked and hate crime in new york city. alvin bragg did not do anything it took the d.o.j. to get

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john edwards ultimately was acquitted because this is a hard case to prove when it comes to hush moneybe around an accounting, whether or not the hush money was booked as an expense. the hard question for the prosecutor, moving that from a misdemeanor to a felly. i think you're seeing a lot of republicans take the bet that donald trump either might be acquitted or the american people really don't see this as such a great violation to rise to the level of an arrest. the law is the law, and donald trump is likely to face that in the next 36 hours. >> david, i want to also play for you what south dakota senator mike round said about trump, calling for protests if he's indicted. >> there's a difference between the former president and what he did on january 6th as the president of the united states and his call for support at the capitol versus an individual person today asking people to show up to protest if he is indicted. >> what do you make of that, david? do you see this as different from january 6th? >> i think donald trump hopes it's the same. i think it's important we realize that.

john edwards was brought up on charges for lying about and concealing a hush money payment that was made to cover up an alleged affair before an m election. those exact charges were brought against a democratic vice presidential nominee and former senator, and you know what? you forgot about it because the country wasn't exactly rocked to its foundations.ot another serving vice president, serving vice president went up against a 40-count felony indictment for crimes committed while he was in office. with him, they forced him to resign his office as part of a plea deal in federal criminal court. o i did a podcast and a book about it, and it blew everybody's mind because we had completely forgotten about it, because it didn't create a lasting problem for us as a country. it does not bend the constitution, let alone break i to indict criminals for crimes, even when the alleged criminal is someone who has been electedh to a very important job.ne it's run-of-the-mill public corruption law enforcement in this country, and we do it all the time. and there is no reason why a former president sho

tactical entry by russia with the support of china or any other country to freeze the war on its terms john edwardair of communications, these are american diplomats , the fifth extraordinary ambassador of the united states to ukraine , greetings to you, john, hello, tell me please. there will still be 2 days of the official visit, all by a dolphin to moscow, but nevertheless, their conversation was born for almost five hours , and it is obvious that what was discussed was, in your opinion, this visit, and what we already know now, maybe you will say more, so what syzynpin and china decided on whom he supports in this war, well, of course, he will still live in moscow, this is a gift to putin and his regime, and with this visit, he will show his support for the kremlin, but in my opinion , it is probably still a pity because he came to moscow now because that day when you write and the brain said that you will all come to moscow last monday, according to your opinion, and ictv gave everyone what putin was for a crime, and therefore it is not only a shame for china, but he also came, even though he

new cnn reporting that trump's team and something we've heard them bring up many times is the john edwards case. of course, he was accused of soliciting. i believe it is not a million dollars to hide an affair. the question, i think is, is that actually a comparison? that is. that really measures up to this. there are yeah. i mean, there are some similarities but also some differences and what the trump team is focusing on when they look at the john edwards case is that he was acquitted on some of these charges, and then the judge declared a mistrial and others where the jury couldn't reach a verdict. the department of justice decided not to move forward. that was a federal case. this is a local prosecutor is unclear. exactly what type of charge bragged might move forward with if he does decide to bring a case and if there may or may not be a parallel there, but the key thing that the trump team is pointing to hear that they look as a parallel to edwards is that they're arguing that this was this payment was made to avoid embarrassment. and it was not made primarily for the campaign kately

bring its own victory closer every day. military aid to russia, we will discuss this issue with john edwarddirector of the eurasian center of the us atlantic council and former ambassador of the united states to ukraine. therefore, russia wants to buy weapons anywhere in order to wage war in ukraine , in particular, they are even in contact with an asian country such as m' this is evidenced by intelligence data, will it be possible to involve myanmar in the war against ukraine? in short, i don't know, but in general, it can be said that of course myanmar does not want to be affected by sanctions . what kind of sanctions do you mean? i am very many different sanctions that can be applied against myanmar , in particular with regard to participation in the global world international economy, we understand what the kremlin offers to such countries in exchange for the countries. of course, they may offer them some kind of help, that is apart from money, in fact, i am not sure what a collective measure can offer to those countries in return countries that, once again, are now hesitating whether t

it wasn't good for gary hart or for john edwards.though he was acquitted, he was acquitted before a favorable jury. he was a popular figure there. trump i not be so popular in new york, but that is the jury system. those cases are really not a precedent here, and we should not refuse to prosecute trump because john edwards is successful in front of non-north carolina juries. that just really isn't relevant. >> james is in chicago, democrat. >> i have one question for the guests. is it illegal for someone to call the state's attorney after the election and ask to find more votes? thank you. >> to call a states attorney --? >> he's going back to georgia and the calls the president made at the time. next oh. that is going to be a question of fact. when he said to call the secretary of state and find more votes, i'm sure you'll take the position that he wasn't saying he was doing something improper. he was just asking if they could keep counting because i am confident i've won, and these figures are not correct. whether a georgia jury wi

closer to his own victory, he still sends military aid to russia, we will discuss this issue with john edward herbsht, director of the eurasian center of the us atlantic council and former us ambassador to ukraine, he wants to buy weapons anywhere in order to wage war in ukraine, in particular, they are even in contact with asian countries like how does myanmar know about this? intelligence data shows whether it will be possible to involve myanmar in the war against ukraine . in short, i don't know, but in general , we can say that, of course, myanmar does not want to suffer from sanctions, what kind of sanctions do you mean, there are a lot of different sanctions that can be applied against myanmar, in particular with regard to participation in the global world international economy, we understand what the kremlin offers to such countries in exchange for countries like myanmar. of course, they may offer them some other than money, i am not really sure what a collective measure can offer to those countries in exchange for countries that, again, are currently hesitating whether to help russia.

victory closer every day, it still sends military aid to russia , we will discuss this issue with john edward , director of the eurasian center of the us atlantic council and former ambassador of the united states to ukraine so, russia wants to buy weapons anywhere in order to wage war in ukraine , in particular they

they and prosecutors went after john edwards for that, and ultimately that he was not convicted. and one of the reasons was is he was able to say, and i think donald trump could argue. i wasn't trying to hide that from voters. i was trying to hide it from my wife. that's exactly right. and i think he was acquitted on one count and hung jury on five others something like that. so what we have here is the underlying charges, which in normal situations is a misdemeanor is the falsification of business records. it becomes a felony if it's done with the intent to violate a different crime. in this case, we are guessing we don't we don't know right one of the possible other crimes they might be using could be a violation of federal campaign finance laws. so it brings a question as to whether or not a new york state prosecution for falsification of business record can be elevated to a felony based on a proposed an intentional violation of federal law. there is a federal state sort of potential mismatch there. it's unsettled law, so prosecutor brag is going out in a bit of a little clear

mike mckee joins us as well is john edwards. i'm going to start with you, at the end of the earnings season, how big is the divide between the winners and losers? john: it looks pretty full for the moment but there is a lot of concern that it might be emptying as we go through the year. what we have seen from a lot of retailers is a strong fourth-quarter and then some caution is the issue their forecast for the rest of the year. we saw that from walmart. we saw that from target, an array of retailers around the spectrum. i think some of it as managing expectations. some of it is concerned that while the consumer is holding up now, they will start to weary as inflation is coming down but remains relatively elevated. it's hard to say that will see a real sharp decline in consumer spending. but people are be more cautious. alix: that goes to what guy was pointing out with consumer confidence, they are forecasting confusing things? where is the consumer there? mike: i'll go back to what alan greenspan once said, we watch what they do

one was it campaign or personal funds, this is personal funds, this is not john edwards this is personald that payment have been made to anyone, irrespective of the campaign. the answer to that question said, he did it protect himself and his family from personal embarrassment. mark: more when we return, we'll be right back. your heart is the beat of life. if you have heart failure, entrust your heart to entresto. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. mark: welcome back. i am here can donald trump's lawyer handling one of these rogue prosecutors this time in manhattan. joe tacopino. nondisclosure agreements, people coming going, severance payments, 10,000 of them signed every day. i suspect that the d.a. office has nondisclosure agreement

one was it campaign or personal funds, this is personal funds, this is not john edwards this is personallve a civil settlement. and bright line test, would that payment have been made to anyone, irrespective of the campaign. the answer to that question said, he did it t protect himself and his family from mark: welcome back. i am here can donald trump's lawyer handling one of these rogue prosecutors this time in manhattan. joe tacopino. nondisclosure agreements, people coming going, severance payments, 10,000 of them signed every day. i suspect that the d.a. office has nondisclosure agreements, people can't discuss certain things. u.s. attorneys office. these are rather common business practices are they not? >> they are. and in my world, as a lawyer, when you resolve a case, i represented many beyond wealthy individuals who resolve cases for what they call nuisance valle value to make an embarrasses problem go away, it is on usually not a problem but a threat of allegations. someone saying i'll pay $100 thousand to quash that now. this is ridiculous, but you will spend more on legal fee

and do you remember john edwards? he was john kerry's running mate back in 2004. 008 he ran against obama and crooked for the nomination. edwards dropped out after he got his mistress pregnant. investigated for funneling donor money a million dollars did campaign cash to keep other quiet. he tried dodging questions for a while. >> senator were, you ever beverly hilton with -- [inaudible] >> i will answer questions. >> thank you, see you then. >> jesse: after she gave birth, it kind of all came out. >> your assumption is that you would just never be caught? >> first of all, it was short. it was a huge judgment -- mistake in judgment but, yeah, i didn't think anyone would ever know about it. >> why did you continue to deny it and not tell the truth? >> because i did not want the public to know what i had done. very simple. >> jesse: so prosecutors went after him. he beat the rap. he testified he used the money to hide the money from his wife, not the voters. that's the precedent. alvin bragg is bringing to the table. there's no proof trump slept with stormy. there is

and we have had examples that go john edwards, the former senator and prosocial candidate, a democrat from north carolina who was investigated by the department of justice for campaign-finance related activities. there are other examples, plenty as well over the past 20 or 30 years. on the house side there is an independent body, the office of congressional ethics, but does exist to be an independent check on congress. the issue with them is that they are more or less an advisory body. they can investigate, they can submit a report on the very detailed to the health and --house ethics committee. they can vote and make recommendations but the recommendations are not binding and the ethics committee will have to choose to bottom-line act on the recommendations of the office of congressional ethics or not. and the stats show clearly that oftentimes they do not. so the senate on the other hand does not have any body even of that sort, advisor or otherwise, a lot of public affairs advocates and go --good government groups have advocated for the senate having an analogous organization to as

one was it campaign or personal funds, this is personal funds, this is not john edwards this is personalto anyone, irrespective of the campaign. the answer to that question said, he did it t protect himself and his family from oh! it's daylight saving time. what's the big deal? gasp! what's the big deal? what's the big deal? what's the big deal? what's the big deal? ♪marching band music♪ ♪marching band music♪ i'll get a cart. get two! scotts daylawn saving is the biggest deal of the year. stock up early and save up to $20 dollars on the best scotts products. this is eargo and they're virtually invisible. they automatically enhance your hearing wherever you are. ours comes with buttons on the back so you can fiddle around to your heart's content. like the eighties all over again. cool, right? ♪ ♪ ♪ get directv with a two year price guarantee. mark: welcome back. i am here can donald trump's lawyer handling one of these rogue prosecutors this time in manhattan. joe tacopino. nondisclosure agreements, people coming going, severance payments, 10,000 of them signed every day. i suspect that t

why we have a precedent for this case former senator john edwards indicted. he was not convictd that is true but this is in the an unpresidented case >> it is george. he was only not convicted that was a federal prosecution he is i federal campaign election loss that was federal who bis dismiddle the case the difference was this john edwards case the payments were made boy a donnar campaign finance laws invoked. they found the paymentless were not med for the purposes of come pain and the justice department dismissd that case. fec did not proceed they found no violation. i spoke to brad low smith and said there was no violation of come pain finance laws the justice department did not proceed in this case against the president there is no precedent this was done with personal money that is the key factor. when it it is with personal money the law says this, if the payment was made with personal funds and they would have been made irrespective of the campaign it is outside of come pin financials. that's when you have. >> that may not be what michael cohen will

john edrd. it did -- edwards. couldn't prove it was an election expenditure, that the payment was made so john edwards would not face future 'em embarrassment as a public figure. that's what trump could do on appeal, right? >> yeah. weed wards, he took money -- weed wards, he took money are from a major donor, so he clearly violated campaign finance laws. with trump, if that money was apparently paid as the, as the prosecutor's claiming, that was paid with his personal funds. so i use this example, liz, if someone's running for office and they get a divorce and they want to settle that divorce, they're going to write their spouse a big check for that divorce and hope that they don't talk about it. that helps their campaign. but, obviously, they can't use campaign funds for that. they have to use personal funds. so the arguments they're making here clearly don't make any sense. and at the end of the day, we just want people to stay out of our elections. we just want the government to the stay out of our elections.

look at john edwards which was a completely different situation, had you a third party paying for roomnd board and represent to keep some woman that was pregnant with his child, a secret. and that was a third party. and in fact, actually happened here, president trump has denied from day one having an affair with this one. he is an extortion victim. he said he didn't, the evidence i think is powerful he never had an affair with her. more importantly he is a victim of extortion, she came out right before the campaign and said, well the election said, unless you pay me i am going to make a public story about something that he says is completely untrue. so, that's something that would be done irrespective, here is the key. it would be down irrespective of the campaign. as michael cohen, the perjure, liar, i don't think he has a law license, what he said when he pled guilty was that the client, his client, was doing it for to prevent personal embarrassment and prevent embarrassment to his family taking it out of the realm of campaign finance. this is not campaign finance law in this case,

there was the prosecution, different jurisdiction, north carolina, ofok a presidential candidate, john edwardsoney payment. different set of facts involving an affair that was acknowledged eventually.t(ok he was acquitted.jf on the campaign finance issue, not on misfiling something. chuck? >> yeah, that's exactly right.Ñi >> a democrat.çó >> democrat, republican, i frankly don't care. what they are,."■ what partyi] belong to, if you have the evidence and can prove it in court, then prove it in court. if you don't, then you don't. bragg has to make ae1 decision whether heu it won't just be michael cohen tou i will talk to cia director leon director coming up on "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. ♪ i'm feeling good vibes ♪ next on behind the series... that run with the champ was magical. i mean the tender chicken, the peppercorn ranch... i love my rings but i'll cherish that lunch... forever. the subway series. the greatest menu of all time. suffering from sinus congestion, especially at night? try vicks sinex the subway series. for instant relief that lasts up to 12 hours. vicks sinex ta

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