john erickson has quite a few brilliant ideas. his idea for monitor is the one that he is best known for in this nation. go visit him there, in battery park in manhattan. you can see in -- see him holding the model lincoln investigated at the white house. celebrated ins sweden, but we call him our own here in america. that was our last question. thank you for having me here today. [applause] >> all arrived, i hope you enjoyed and his presentation. quick going to take a break. >> you're watching live coverage of a symposium on abraham lincoln's life and legacy. after this break will be back live with the next speaker, ll