. >>> joining us a lawmaker at the center of the recall effort in wisconsin since day one, john erpenbach, nice to see you again, thanks for being here. >> you too, rachel, thank you. >> when all this started with you and your fellow senators, fleeing the state to keep the republicans from stripping union rights in wisconsin, when you and i first met over that whole conflict, did you know it would end like this for scott walker? >> when we talked i thought we would be in chicago for a couple days and go home, work it out, obviously that didn't happen. here we are, less than a year later and we turned in a million signatures to recall the governor almost as many votes as he got when he was first elected in 2010. >> in terms of the magnitude of that, we talk about big numbers a lot in the news, not just about dollars, but often people, the million voter threshold is somebody nobody seriously floated before it happened today. can you give us some sense of how big that number is and how unexpected that was? it seems like it's much higher than even the democrats highest target. >> yeah, i was