the reason he said that was because john f. kellye story about how general dunford had told him that's what he says. but what was stunning about what has happened in the last couple of days, according to john f. kelly was just the fact that this -- during one of the bleakest times in this widow's existence on this earth. when she was getting a phone call, a personal phone call from the president of the united states, there was a member of congress eavesdropping on that private call between the president and the grieving widow. and that's the woman who made it political in john f. kelly's words. and you know what? she is now saying that niger was donald trump's benghazi. so clearly she has made this political and john f. kelly is heart broken over it. brian: right. so not only that, is it not his benghazi, niger should be investigated and is investigated. most democrats don't believe there was anything wrong about benghazi except for the outcome but not about what led to it and how it was handled afterwards. ainsley: general kelly sai

it's not just president trump that's attacking this lady, but also general john f kelly, i've been reading his tweets and he's as bad as donald trump. how can we trust this administration in tax reform and in healthcare and anything. how can we trust them. how can i trust them. >> host: there's a couple different issues victoria brought up. she began with healthcare. the debate to move the legislation that the president is taking into this tax reform efforts. >> it's an interesting question. >> guest: what i would say to the caller is, first of all, there is no bill, no tax bill right now so she would have to wait until there is a bill and be a good citizen and read about it, learn about it, learn about the details, watch the process as the bill moves through congress, see the final product and then she will be able to judge whether the administration has lived up to its rhetoric on the bill. >> host: and pulsing her? -- and paul singer? -- >> thank you very much. please sit. i am honored to welcome the prime minister of singapore to the white house today. i want to thank you for visiting

quote, for the past several years general john f. kelly has gone out of his way to keep the death of his son free from politics. he did not talk about when just four days after his death in afghanistan, he found himself commemorating two other marines in combat. in fact he specifically asked the officer introducing him not to mention his boy, who was killed instantly when he stepped on a land mine while on patrol in 2010 according to "the washington post" report. just last month kelly slipped away from the white house to attend a marine corp scholarship benefit in his son's memory with little fanfare or attention. but on tuesday president trump thrust his son into the public and political glare, invoking the younger kelly as part of a continuing attack on former president barack obama. ashley, how do you process this as a journalist covering this story in realtime? >> what's so striking about this is even journalists who have been covering general kelly for a very short period, one thing is clear his own service and the service of both of

when john kelly was a little boy, everywhere looking in america there was someone like him at the top including president of the united states who had the same initials as john f. kelly showing 10-year-olds growing up in boston even a boston irish kid could make it to the presidency and so today when john kelly looked back on a world that never was, where women were sacred, he was standing in the white house occupy ied by the president that dishonored women, the only president in mistily who has confessed to sexual assault. >> i just don't starting them. it's like a magnet. just kiss. i don't even -- when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> john kelly stunned by that? does john kelly wash his hands after he shakes hands with donald trump? the hand that -- john kelly's stream of consciousness about the loss of what is sacred in our society continued. >> life, the dignity of life, was sacred. that's gone. religion. that seems to be gone, as well. gold star families, i think that left in the convention over the summer. but i just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield,

working closely around with him what i would call the good guys, secretary tillerson, mattis and john f. kelly. "the times" reported that during the interview yesterday, mr. corker speaking carefully and purposefully, seemed to almost find cathartic satisfaction by portraying mr. trump in terms that most senior republicans only use in private. telling the truth about donald trump. but it seems someone in the white house realized that the best way to find out how many republicans want to experience that cathartic experience for donald trump to attack and lie about bob corker. there isn't one republican senator who would side with donald trump over bob corker in this kind of dispute and so donald trump sits in the white house tonight beaten into his corner by bob corker. humiliated by bob corker. by being accurately described by bob corker. the collective public quotes about president trump by senator corker are the worst things ever said about a president by a senator in the same party. they are now actually the worst things ever said by a senator about a president, world war iii. world war iii

trump usually initiates the talks because incoming calls are now rooted through john f. kellyre dictated by the whims of the president who dials his former chief strategist when something he reads, watches or hears piques his interest. you know he's picking up the phone and talking to steve. >> that's true, he's talking to a lot of people, but whose advice does he follow, and is he giving steve instructions, or is he just letting steve bannon be steve bannon? we don't know yet because, ultimately, the president knows that in order to get his agenda passed he's not only going to need some democratic buy-in, he's going to need a solid republican front. and as long as there's this war within the party, it's very hard to see how he gets that. eric: and quickly, finally, what if he uses bannon for the base and then pivots off to, you know, potentially some democrats and that sort of thing? >> well, that could work if the damage from this furor and warfare is not too great. we just don't know yet, and we won't know, i think, until 2018. but this we do know, this war is going to cont

today general john f. kelly and a gold star father took to the posium in the briefing room for the second time in less than a week to try to end the controversy put into motion by donald trump's criticism of his predecessors, presidents bush and obama, for their treatment of military dads. >> well, thanks a lot. it is a more serious note, so i just wanted to perhaps make more of a statement and give more of an explanation than what amounts to be a traditional press interaction. most americans don't know what happens when we lose one of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines or coast guardsman in combat. let me tell you what happens. their buddies wrap them up in whatever passes as a shroud, puts them on a helicopter as a routine and sends them home. their first stop along the way is when they are packed in ice, typically at the air head and then flown to usually europe where they are then packed in ice again and flown to dover air force base where dover takes care of the remains, embalms them meticulously dresse

today general john f. kelly to the posium in the briefing room for the second time in less than a week to try to end the controversy put into motion by donald trump's criticism of his predecessors, presidents bush and obama, for their treatment of military dads. >> well, thanks a lot. it is a more serious note, so i just wanted to perhaps make more of a statement and give more of an explanation than what amounts to be a traditional press

kelly, john f. kelly said you have got to develop better sources. there are people who work even in the white house don't like the president. would like to sand bag the president. so are these leaks, these there are anonymous sources often sometimes according to what we heard yesterday from the podium they are not accurate. you know what? for the most part, it was a brush back to the press. if you are going to prints something about this administration, please, make sure the sources are accurate. ainsley: one of the journalists looked at him and said what's your frustration? he said you are myer frustration well not you specifically the media. many of you are not honest. brian: he took out really the vangt fair article where he says the president is yelling out i don't like anyone in the white house. to keep former security guy except for a few people. and that the chief of staff kelly is upset on twitter about the president tweeting and unable to get total control of the president. he made clear yesterday i'm not here to get ahold of the president.

also in that same interview with john f. kelly was asking whether or not he would apologize to congresswoman fredericka wilson down in florida regarding what she said she recounted that day he was down in florida at the dedication of an fbi building. he said, you know what? if i need to apologize for something i will. but, in this case i will not apologize to her. also. brian: let's listen. steve: also, he talked a little bit about what it was like that same week where he went to arlington cemetery. ainsley: most powerful statement in that entire interview i thought last night. listen to this. >> what did i hear over in arlington cemetery? some of these stones over there represent young people that i sent out to battle and they died, they didn't maki won't makeit any more mellc than it is. wonder if worth it anymore. someone make political hay out of what the president was trying to do. the screams, a lot of the viewers will laugh at this, i'm sure, the screams out of the graves was, you know, what are you talking about, kelly? yo

there were a number of people including john f. kelly in the room who heard the conversation.the wife did put on facebook that she backed the congresswoman's account that the president did say he knew what he signed up for, but he followed up it doesn't make it any easier. that's part of the conversation, the exchange back and forth. the other thing is, as you know, there is nothing to say in this situation. have you ever dealt with anybody who lost someone tragically in an accident or to any sudden circumstances? there is nothing you could possibly say to make them feel better. maybe you could actually say something that -- maybe this they would deem might be soothing. however, i think it's also important to point out the president of the united states has on record actually this army sergeant recess that, yeah, the president did call me. and at which time he said to me i bet after my son died in battle in afghanistan and he said i bet you never gave you an ounce of trouble in his life. and the president -- and his response was you are absolutely right, mr. president. he said

it isn't just president trump john f attacking but kelly, i have been reaching his tweets and how can we trust this administration? and tax reform and health care and in anything? our military. how can we trust? host: a couple of different issues. she began with health care. the lessons from the health care debate and the attempt to move that legislation? guest: well, an interesting question. what i would say to the caller all, there is of no tax bill right now. so she would have to wait until there was a bill and be a good citizen and read about it and learn about it and read the details. watch the process as the bill moves through. eventual be able to judge the administration. host: and paul singer on the trust issue with the tax bill? guest: one of the things that becomes challenging is that when we talk about moving a massive tax bill -- which none of us ,ave seen -- it hasn't written and they want to move it by thanksgiving? you have to ask the question -- if someone is moving got quickly with something that debate, is there something in there that we haven't seen that we are goi

and he said, essentially, well, ask john f. kelly whether or not barack obama called.'t want to talk about it when he was sitting on our couch because he feels as though he doesn't want too much attention on his son because some other sons and daughters are lost in battle, too. just because he is the highest ranking officer to be killed since the war on terror began. so the president was sitting down with us on radio. and here's what he said. >> i know this is a big week. how important is getting this budget passed to even get to the tax reform conversation, mr. president? >> well, it's very important. i mean, we need the budget. we need the passage. we have thad cochran as you know ♪ feeling so great. he may not be able to vote. we don't know what john mccain is going to do. we have a couple of others that maybe could disappoint us. maybe they won't. if we get the budget. i think we will be in good shape to get the tax but we have to get the budget. brian: i talked to senator joe manchin yesterday. he says if they could give me a little something, i could deliver six

it isn't just president trump john f attacking but kelly, i have been reaching his tweets and how cane trust this administration? and tax reform and health care and in anything? our military. how can we trust? host: a couple of different issues. she began with health care. the lessons from the health care debate and the attempt to move that legislation? guest: well, an interesting question. what i would say to the caller all, there is of no tax bill right now. so she would have to wait until there was a bill and be a good citizen and read about it and learn about it and read the details. watch the process as the bill moves through. eventual be able to judge the administration. host: and paul singer on the trust issue with the tax bill? guest: one of the things that becomes challenging is that when we talk about moving a massive tax bill -- which none of us ,ave seen -- it hasn't written and they want to move it by thanksgiving? you have to ask the question -- if someone is moving got quickly with something that debate, is there something in there that we haven't seen that we are going

. >> kelly: president trump will not block the release of documents related to john f. kennedy's assassination. "i will be allowing as president the long blocked and classified j.f.k. files to be open." following the story from our new york city newsroom with more details. brian? >> the j.f.k. files are a compilation of documents about the assassination of john f. kennedy. there are as many as 3,000 documents that will be released. this all goes back to 25 years ago where congress passed the record collections act that set a deadline to release all j.f.k. assassination files by thursday. under the law, the president gets the final say and can chooses to withhold certain documents from going public. there are reports that government agencies are lobbying the president to withhold certain documents that could reveal sources. j.f.k.'s assassination has fueled conspiracy theories for decades and most are centered around lee harvey oswald, the man charged with killing kennedy, questions about whether oswald acted alone, did some u.s. intelligence officials have any prior kno

kelly will have a former news anchor that accused o'reilly of harassment. >>> faced with a thursday deadline, president trump expects to release long-secret government files on the assassination of president john ft the national archives with more on that story. hallie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. we are talking about something 25 years in the making. the potential release of that last stash of documents related to president kennedy's death. president trump says he plans to make those public, with students of history, lovers of camelot, and even conspiracy theorists eager for a glimpse of whatever the files hold. the 1963 assassination of president john f. kennedy in dallas, triggered years of conspiracy theories. >> why was kennedy killed? >> reporter: it wasn't until this 1991 oliver stone movie that congress got so frustrated with the fiction, that it ordered documents be released. in less than 72 hours, more than 3,000 hidden files are going to be unlocked and unleashed. >> at the same moment, all around the world, millions of people will have a vast library of secret documents from a turning point in history. >> reporter: that deadline hits thursday, with president trump