. >> hi my name is john feldman. i'm one of the owners of adobe books. wasn't prepared to defend myself against the allegations made earlier. basically, we are a volunteer-run co-op because we -- and there is no management, per se. there's a hired -- or an elected board of directors. we don't manage. we make decisions based on the way co-ops work. we -- we're elected by the constituency of the co-op and operate through -- the same way you guys do. we have a certain amount of people needed there and we vote on things. they're either passed or not. as far as ms. kong's allegations that we're exploiting them, we literally have no -- we literally make no money. as far as i can understand, as far as the co-op law works, people that are -- once you become a member of a co-op, you have -- i'm sorry, i wasn't prepared to have to go through this. once you become a member of a co-op, you are an owner and we decide at the end of the year to decide what to do with our money that we've made. we can either take it and put it back into the co-op or we can take that mon