i had never been to england, to europe before, says and at oxford at that time they had john fenis, joe ronald dwarkin. a.j. hart was still alive then. >> if i can read a couple of statements from professor fenis. in 2009 the professor wrote about england's population. he said england's population had "largely given up bearing children at a rate consistent with their community's medium term survival." he warned they were on a path to "their own replace am as a people by other people's more or less regardless of the incomer's compatibility of psychology, culture, religion, or political ideas and ambitions or the worth or viciousness of those ideas and ambitions." he went on to say, "european states in the early 21st century move into a trajectory of demographic and cultural decay. population transfer and replacement by a kind of reversed kolonization." had you ever read that before? >> nope. >> had you heard it before? >> nope. not to my recollection. >> could you distinguish what he said with what congressman steve king said? >> senator, i'm not here to answer for mr. king or for profes

. >> can you describe your relationship with professor john fenis. >> sure, he was my dissertation supervisorou first mead him? >> whenever i went to oxford. so it would have been 199 -- >> 2. >> could have been 2 or 3, somewhere in there. >> and how, what was his relationship with you or you with him? >> he was my dissertation supervisor and i would describe that as a relationship between teacher and student and he was a very yen -- generous teacher, particularly generous with his red ink on my papers. i member sitting next to the fire in his oxford office, like something out of "harry potter" and he always had a coal fireplace burning. sometimes when i was being raked over the coals. he did not let an argument that i was working on go unchallenged from any direction. >> so that was over 20 years ago you first empty him? >> whatever it is it is, yes. >> do you still have a friendship, relationship with him? >> last time i saw him, gosh, when, i know i saw him when he retired and there was a party held in his honor, and i remember seeing him then. that was a couple years ago. >> did he know y