but now that we have john podesta asking for the electors asking to get a special briefing, the more the media play this up, the more they will be embracing kind of a flingy that really could end up stealing the election from the guy who won 306 electoral votes. >> but i thought the fringe was suggesting something crazy like a national election could be rigged. >> look, everyone knows that even if it turns out to be true, and i think there should be an investigation, that russian hackers were trying to undermine the election, the idea that this flip the election, what really turned the election was michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania where hillary clinton barely campaigned in two of those states and where donald trump made the connection with white working class voters who rejected the democratic nominee, that's what turned the election. so now to try to say if only i had not been for vladimir putin, hillary clinton would have won strikes me as sour graups. but this is going to get quite a ride in the media before the electors vote. >> here now with more, fox news contributor, governor mike huckabee and former chief economist to president obama, austan