. >> john foster dulles. >> oh, i've been to that airport. [laughter] >> with the overthrow -- >> oh, some of the other american regime changes? >> yeah. >> it does seem to be a habit of ours. we don't like the guy running got guatemala? i know what we can do, or, you know, we don't like the guy running cuba? that kind of thing? i mean, the thing -- it's one thing for a government to want to hope for foreign leaders who would perhaps, if not act in our interest, at least, you know, but the thing about the united states is at our finding -- in the ceo lar ration of independence, you know, defines our belief that the theory of government should be on the consent of the governed. the fact that they would go abroad and among key with other country's rulers is a contradiction. it is, at best, hypocritical. is that what you're talking about? >> and also the religious ferver. >> the difference with hawaii is the missionaries, the original missionaries, the ones who came in the 1820s and 30s, they were not the one to overthrow the queen, it's their c