and when john foster dulles who had already said the first act of a presidency would be to get rid ofclay came, it was a few weeks before the election. it was just assumed dewey was the next president, and dulles came and had been mocking the airlift, came to clay's house for lunch in berlin. and they barely spoke, they despised each other. but clay had invited earnest reuter, an extraordinary man, mayor of berlin who we saw during the film to come in halfway through the thing, halfway through the lunch. and dulles, quite brutally, said to reuter -- reuter spoke six languages including english -- how can we expect that the people of germany won't fold in to the russians rather than starve to death and beaten down? you can't fool us with that. and reuter said, the people of berlin are used to a great deal of suffering, and they're willing to take a great deal more to avoid russian domination. clay got up and said to reuter, whispered to reuter, actually, he's all yours now. so it is lost to history what happened when outer and dulles -- outer and dulles were alone. but dulles never sai

and there is senator vandenburg and the late secretary of state john foster dulles.s secretary of state when i was in the house of representatives. i was on the foreign affairs committee at that time. c-span: anybody else... we only have a short time left and we haven't even begun to look at all the pictures. you say there are 300 pictures. >> guest: yes. c-span: 800 pages. >> guest: yes. c-span: when you read this book, by the way, how do you it? through in one sitting? or do you come back to it every day? >> guest: no. i read it through. i've read it through. i go back to it many times for certain areas and refresh my memory. i also on the occasion of reading it through look for any possible errors that i may have failed to pick up in my five proof readings. c-span: about how many people do you think overall had something to do with putting this book out that work in the senate? >> guest: oh, not more than a half dozen i would say that really put a good... c-span: time in it. are there any other senators today sitting in the united states senate that have as much i