there still no comment from john gar lee or the communist party hierarchy about the accusations, nor any expected. but for now repeated claims that nothing happened. and that ponies find being greeted mostly with skepticism. let's explore this with her jato wang, who's a senior china researcher for human rights watch. she joins us at from new york. welcome to d w. m. if publish wife says she's fine and she didn't. and she didn't a say, all right, what we all thought she'd said and written shouldn't we believe her? just let her get on with a life? i don't think so. i don't think we should have believed the interview because the chinese government has done this so many times before to so many people, they forcibly disappear somebody, they don't like. what is that human rights lawyer, activist, celebrity, obedient near them, make them reappear, or some videos seen there. i'm doing great. don't worry about me. or i confess to this crime. these had been played out many times before. push ice case just 15 to this historical pattern. that's why we shouldn't believe it. and so what is your c