john garibaldi was a young professor at kent state at the time in psychology. he was interviewed by craig for the project. he has followed this pattern as well. i'll play a short clip from his interview here. >> what do you think the consequences were of the shootings? >> well, one of the consequences that was rather apparent was that there weren't any further demonstrations. that is to say, there weren't demonstrations of the sort that we had or that were going on. it was like all of a sudden people realized this was a deadly game. this was not a panty raid kind of mentally. -- mentality. this was not something that could be done on a whim without regard to consequences, that the consequences were indeed dramatic and severe. and i think it was a sobering moment nationally to see that we could have an occasion where the youth of our country were actually killed by the military units that were there to preserve the peace. of course, there was a lot of sympathy for slain students, talking about young people, they weren't children, first of all. they were beyond t