and if you get an opportunity to interview john generette, that will be -- because his experience is one that i cannot imagine. i cannot imagine how -- what that must have been like. but at any rate, we got these calls. i was convinced that there were people still left in the ambush site. >> right. >> and that we needed to do something to try to get support for them or get them out. and at some point we decided we needed to go. so i basically made the decision that i was going to take a patrol and go out. sergeant klug, and i don't know whether you've interviewed fred or not, said, "captain, you cannot leave this perimeter and go out on a patrol and try to -- you've got more guys in here that you need to worry about. because the x.o.'s wounded. i've got lieutenants that are down. i've got a number of my key ncos. and i'm going to go out on a -- >> right. >> -- rescue mission. not even knowing what's out there. so klug said, "i'll do it." so he takes a patrol and some stretchers that had been dropped off by the medevac guys that were coming back in to go out into the lz. and we're ass