>> deputy city attorney john gibner. there is no position on a realtor serving. in response to questions you are asking to mr. honda, we will work with him if he is appointed to advise him when he is required to recuse himself. the general rule is, if someone is appearing before the board or is a party appearing before the board who has been a source of income to him, basically one of his clients, who is paid him 500 dollars or from home he has received 500 dollars in commission the last 12 months he is required to recuse himself. >> i could be anyone other whether a realtor or not. >> that's right. >> any other question? >> thank you mr. honda for being willing to serve. one of the dynamics we have seen around the board of appeals lately is because of the charter allows "any person" even if that person does not live in the city, and regardless to the connection to anything can appeal to the board of appeals. that delays the project a few months. there was an appeal, one person appealed the project, it happened elsewhere as well. and without commenting on specifi