we have another passenger, john gobel joining us from the sixth floor and again, offloading from the floors and you have a little bit of a wait, john. how did that play into your understanding of what the situation was? >> well, when they originally called for -- i was immediately awaken, and i knew that there was a problem in the engine room. i basically understood that there was an emergency and i think that there was osomething to not scare the passengers too much. >> yes, fire on board is always scary in these situations and it could have been much worse -- >> actually -- >> go ahead, john. >> well, yeah, they actually didn't announce a fire right away. they just called for team alpha, and at that time, i told my wife i was going to get up and see what with was going on. and at that time, i went up on the 12th deck, and i observed smoke coming from the vicinity of the stack, and it appeared to be coming out of the ventilation from the engine room. >> were you concerned that you were about to go from the big boat to the small boat? >> i was. and i went back down below and talked to