i also write about people like fitch who was a farmer from connecticut and john greenwood who was the little fifer boy from boston and joseph hodgkins the massachusetts shoe sh shoe maker, and those people played a real part in that time, in that moment, we know because they wrote about it. you have to remember that all we know is what we have in diaries and letters. there was no correspondents covering the war, reporting what a terrific job alexander hamilton just did. nor were there artist correspondents. all we have are orderly books. other government records of various kinds and the diaries and letters. so, if somebody kept a diary or wrote a lot of letters, that really pours it out, tells you what it was like, describes the scene, describes his own feelings and describes the suffering and the hardships, then that person becomes a protagonist because that person's taking us into the time. i try as best i can to be of the moment in how i'm portraying what happened because i think that's intellectually more honest in a way in that these people don't know what's going to happen next

greenwood cemetery here in shreveport. .. >> host: i am susan glasser the editor foreign-policy and i am talking today with john lewis gaddis about his book, "george f. kennan." as you have already heard kennan was a diplomat, scholar and a prize-winning author, the emanate yale historian john lewis gaddis has spent 30 years writing his biography just out in the last few months. he calls kennan and american life, subject we will be discussing today. we will talk even more about the 700 page book, one whose grand sweep rents all the way from prison on the eve of world war ii, stalin's show trial, the devastation of post-war japan, the intrigues of dean acheson state department, the bitter politics of vietnam and the personal life of a respected but i think it's fair to say somewhat tormented intellectual. kennan today of course is best remembered as the architect of convenience a phrase that if you google him will inevitably come up linked with his name. he express that of course and his famous mr. x article back in 1947, but he made many other contributions for practically inventing the serious study inside the american gov

john believes they can be traced back to the royal hanoverian horses used by the britisroyal family. but there's no fancy castle or palace for these horses. home is 60 acres of open pasture at greenwood ranch just a few miles away from auburn. royal blood or not, 22-year-old ben ma sure we knew that he was a media star, and he kept interrupting our interview to make sure we gohis good side on camera. >> heh heh. we have a hambone here. he's a--he's a camera hog. >> good-looking and good-natured, the cream draft horse is believed to be the only draft breed native to america, and these horses, which are more than 5 feet tall, or 17 hands, are surprisingly hard to startle. no wonder they've been dazzling crowds ib hundreds of parades and shows across california and the u.s. >> we've even had 'em at the indianapolis car races, and they've--they handled that well. they even had a car go by 'em at 150 miles an hour, uh--and-- and stood up to all of that. and they handle helicopters, sirens, uh, air horns. uh, they're very solid horses. >> john, who grew up on a farm, has been raising draft horses for about 30 years. >> we were looking for a--some new horse to work with in the future, and w