the program is 45 minutes. >> john grisham, who is deborah carter? >> she was a cocktail waitress, among other jobs, 21, 22 years old in ada oklahoma was murdered in december 1981. raped and murdered in a very, very brutal episode. and it took the police five years to solve her crime. or they thought they solved it. they got the wrong guys. they convicted the wrong guys and send them to prison. sent one to death row. ron williams went to death row. he had never met deborah carter. and he spent 11 years in prison and was exonerated 10 years ago, 1999, almost 10 years exactly. but he spent a total of 12 years in prison for the murder of deborah carter, and never met her. >> who was rhomboids and? >> ron williamson was a man i never met, never heard of him. he was one of the first big notorious dna exonerations in the late '90s. and i met him when i read his obituary. so i never got to see him obviously. but he was a fascinating character. when he was younger, many people in his small corner of oklahoma felt ron was the next mickey mantle. and ron certa

. >> host: john grisham, his most recent book, "the associate." it is in nolle beaupre villie is written one nonfiction, 2006 "the innocent man" and coming up with a collection of short storie thank you being with us. >> guest: my pleasure. >> john grisham is the author of 20 novels and nonfiction book, "the innocent man." john gsham appeared at the 2009 virginia festival of the book. for more infortion visit thee a book.org. >> micha dirda longtime critic of "the waington post" a author of the book "classics for pleasure." how do you define a classic? >> epping classic is a book that peopleeep going back to generation after generation. it doesn't have to be one of these obvious classics that we think o shakespea and dante and and that the premise of th book is a lot of the popular fiction of the 19th century or classical genre fiction are is important to us as the more obvious great books, so this collection of essays has pieces on people like safire or john webster, or obviously portant butlso on the crater of the regency romance in the grade sc

that includes judy blumberg, douglas brinkley, john grisham, and others. but books and trained not go the other. >>> the rain looks like it will turn tomorrowfternoon and tomorrow night and clear up some afternoon. we have a scorecard to keep up with the changes. take a look at the rooftop camera. you see little patches of blue. we mostly see high clouds. it is the low cloudiness and in the area that can be a very slow process. you can see a little bit clearing continue to move from north to south. let's make a couple of stops on the weather network right now. a high of 72, 0.08 inches of rain. the cool air is pretty widespread. 69 degrees with and light northeasterly breeze. pollen count all week long, the only thing showing up as mold spores. after four days in a row, today is reported in the high range. with more rain, that will continue to be the issue going forward. the temperatures are cool. the further south you go, the cooler it is and vice versa. that is where the clearing skies are located. 71 in bowie. 67 in fredericksburg. ec a little bumps rig

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