john grisham joins us at the table to discuss. hello. >> happy to be here.es. you wrote, every prosecutor dreams of a sensational murder trial with a prominent white defendant -- >> sure. >> -- who kills a well-known victim. you set that up nicely. the book goes to the motive. and you keep us guessing until the very, very end about what the motive is. >> that was a challenge, as the question is why did he do it. >> yes. >> so i wanted to keep you hooked for 400 pages. >> not only -- >> the very end. >> not only do you keep us hooked, the governor before the execution says, look, if you tell us why you did it, your life will be spared, and he still doesn't tell. why? >> based on a true story. >> yeah. >> you said that you stole -- it's unusual for you to say that. >> i heard the story 30 years ago. it supposedly happened in mississippi in 1930s in a small town. something like it this happened. the murderer would never tell why and he was hung on the courthouse lawn. and the governor went to see him, the day before, said, look, i have the power to commute your