how do you pronounce his name, john gutfreund. >> your "f-ing book" i wrote a book about liar's poker. he kept repeating that line. he was just emphasizing how intense he felt about it. i do not completely agree. he did make my career. it was a great way to start a literary career. the book was a big success. my book dealt him a glancing blow. i think, at that moment, he was thinking that here is this guy that i have never laid eyes on who wrote this book and followed me wherever i go. it has caused me some annoyance. i will say what i think about it. i let him say it. >> pronounced his name again -- pronounced his name again -- pronounce his name again. >> it sounds like "good friend." i was drawn back to this because of the experience that i had. one of the themes that are teased out of the story is that an awful lot of the crisis that we have been living through has its seeds in things that happened in the 1980's. i thought that it was appropriate to end the book by boat -- by going back to the person that was there. he was a seminal figure in wall street. he had taken this legenda

>> john gutfreund who was the ceo of salomon brothers where i worked in my youth, my first job out ofgraduate school i worked as a bond salesman on the salomon brothers trading floor for a couple of years. >> quote, your f--ing book. why did he say that to you? >> well, he said, your f--ing book it destroyed my career and it made yours. i wrote a book called liars poker about that experience at salomon brothers. and he thought -- he was really -- he kept repeating that line that -- he was just emphasizing how intensely he felt about it. and it was an awkward moment because i dont completely agree. i think that actually he did make my career. it was a great way to start a literary career. the book was a big success but he could have survived by a book. my book dealt him at most a glancing blow. but i think at that moment he was thinking heres this guy. ive never laid eyes on him as far as i know who wrote this book that has followed me wherever i go and it has caused me some annoyance. im going to say what i think about and so i let him say it. >> pronounce his name again. >> gutfreund