and would ask for a one-week continuance on cindy elias and would like to move john hamasaki forward. is that correct? >> supervisor sheehy: thank you. >> supervisor breed: is there a second? i will second that. >> clerk: the file has been duplicated and need to amend both motions. >> supervisor breed: the file has not been duplicated? >> clerk: it's a duplication of the file. >> supervisor breed: i didn't hear that. >> clerk: that's the official request that supervisor sheehy made. >> supervisor breed: it was to divide the question because it's in one motion. >> if i may, city attorney, john givner. division of the question is an act that the board takes when you want to take two votes on one item, up or down. today i understand that supervisor sheehy is asking for an up-or-down vote only on john hamasaki's appointment and then a continuance on cindiy aiay ai. so you need two motions. that would be a duplication of the file and then two motions. >> supervisor breed: i see. okay. all right. supervisor sheehy has made a motion to do just that. and is there a second? if not, i will seco

and i -- the two that i would like to put out there for discussion are john hamasaki and cindy elias. and the reason john, i liked the fact that not only is this the second time you're trying to do this, but for you to be persistent and showing up at meet and trying to stick with the issue that was -- that tells me a lot about not only what you already have in terms of your experience and quality but your -- you know, your passion for this work. and for me, cindy, you -- you floated also to the top somewhat. and not by -- i mean, i don't want to make it seem like people weren't real close to you, because this decision was really tough. but you know, for me, when i listened to you talk about all the definitions, all the questions that supervisor cohen and others asked, you answered very succinctly in terms of how you answered it. the other part of it i think is you seem to have that perspective of whether it's from labor with the police or with these -- the citizens themselves. so i liked that balance about that, about you. >> supervisor safai: supervisor stefani? >> just to -- i was d

also i'm here to support januar john hamasaki. who has attended police commission meetings despite the fact he wasn't selected the first time. he has shown his understanding of the police employee groups by meeting with the officers for justice. i also feel that de'anthony jones is another strong candidate for the police commission as well as cindy, the last candidate that we heard from. of course, you can only choose two, but whichever two are left behind, i would hope that you would present them to our new mayor as a possible mayoral appointment, and i do thank you for your time. >> thank you for your time. i really appreciate the presence of every single person in this room in order to advance dignity for every marginal member of our community, we all need to show up. so the fact that you have 12 extremely well equipped candidates for two positions is a very beautiful sign about the progress we've made since the last time i spoke before this rules committee, where supervisor cohen was one of the committee members of the i am sh

so i want to welcome commissioner cindy elias, john hamasaki, have been sworn in by the city attorney's office, have been handed binders. they'll get some cases assigned to them tonight. but what weo when we have new commissioners, haveth introduce themselves and have bout t ckgrnd.f the public a so with t i' goio introduce cindy elias. >> hello. i am cindy elias. i am currently a labor attorney for the state of california. my goal is to enforce the labor laws in the state of california and make sure people are paid their pawages. prior to that i was a plic defender for a little over 11 years. to that i held several different positions. the last position i held in the public defender's office was the leadorney which was the law enforcement civil division prtorney that focused on a ram that waselled seattle which aims aolevel offenders in addressingg iand gettighem the hat wasy role at th an jail.so defender's office. i am very excited to be on this commission and working forward with all of you and i look forward to prosperous future. >> thank you. i'll note thatommissr elias isso al a

so i want to welcome commissioner cindyel john hamasaki, haveeen sworn in by the c attorney's office, have been handed binders. 'lley get some cases assigned to them tonight. but what we do when we have new commissioners, we have them introduce themselves and have the members of the public a little bit about their background. so withhat i'm going to introduce commissioner cindy elias. cindy elia i amre a labor attorney for the state of california. my goal is to enforce the labor n sta of california and make sure people are paid ewages. prior to that i was a public defender for a little over 11 years. prior to that i held several different positions. the last pion i held in the public defender's office was the lead attorney wh was the law enforcement civil division attorney that focused on a program that was modelled after seattle which aims aoleve ndersn addssing dru addiction, mental health issue and getting them the services they need rather than jail. t role at th public defend fie. i am very excited to be on this commission and working forward with all of you and i look forward to

john hamasaki. we're interviewing him and drilling him. back to the line of questioning. i want to talk about the policy of shooting in cars. i think it's incredibly important and it's a teachable moment here. as you know, because you were there, the discussions that occurred around this policy, has been long and storied. >> right. >> supervisor cohen: but yet and still, we had a recent shooting where officers opened up and fired on a moving vehicle. if you were a member of the police commission, how would you handle this? you've been to enough commission meetings to know the rule and the limitations and what you can and cannot do. >> right. but at the same time, i'm going to end up on the commission, which i'm hopeful for, i probably shouldn't prejudge a specific case. >> supervisor cohen: yes. that's actually a very appropriate answer and i appreciate that. >> i'm sure there's a way we can discuss the underlying issues. >> supervisor cohen: yes. >> that all went on during the last time i applied and that was, you know, ended up with television ads attacking the commissi