john, we just stepped out of the debate. and bill nigh, the science guy, he was debating, and tim hamm, best-selling author, debating on the chretie creation side. and bill nye mosted a video on his blog, saying that teaching creation to children is harmful. idea that creationisms wrong, because the earth, he says, couldn't have happened 6,000 years ago, and a flood 4,000 years ago, but we have also heard from the other side, which is tim hamm, who brings up exploratory science verse observational science, versus historical science that we're just guessing about, and he brings up the idea that there has to be one authority, and is it god or man? also, at a recent poll, though evolution is widely accepted in scientific circles, it's not so much a clear cut case for the american public. 60% of americans who believe in some sort of evolution, but 30% favor some creationism. so they know that they have a huge platform. sold out crowd in here, and groups watching in the country, and they hope to put the information out there, and bring this debate out to the forefront and have people decide their themselves. >> we have the debate up, a