sheriff john hanlin: two detectives race into this situation, and five minutes later, it's over. >> they got to the building, and immediately confronted the suspect. there was an exchange of gunfire. the suspect had fallen out of line of sight. they waited for a brief moment or so, and ultimately, it was from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> reporter: the shooter is dead. we know who it was. what more do you have to investigate at this time? >> right now, we're really wanting to investigate and have as complete of an understanding as we can as to why. why did this guy do this to our community? why did he go in and shoot up his classroom? and it's our hope that we'll get some of those answers. >> reporter: while he wants to know what motivated the shooter, sheriff john hanlin believes speaking the gunman's names galorifies his actions. you don't want to mention his name. >> don't. i won't. >> reporter: does that make it harder for us to understand who he is and to get the information that you want to get about why this happened? >> i'm convinced that we will get a much clearer understan

my name is john hanlin. >> douglas county sheriff john hanlin is the face of the mass shooting at umpquaalling for compassion for his community. >> these families are currently living through the nightmare in the most personal way possible. >> reporter: but he did not express that same sympathy for the 20 first graders and their teachers killed at sandy hook. on his facebook page in 2013, he apparently posted a link to this video produced by conspiracy theorists. the viral video calls the victims actors, ludicrously claiming that sandy hook is a hoax, cooked by the government to take guns. on his facebook page this comment about the video. this makes me wonder who we can trust anymore. the sheriff denied to cnn that he posted the video. >> he didn't post it? >> no. no. i know what you're referring to. but no. that's not a conspiracy theory belief that i have. >> at this point i'm not buying a word that's coming out of his mouth. >> reporter: the brady campaign to prevent gun violence is demanding the sheriff step down. >> this guy who has just about zero credibility, and we know has extr

there are so many more questions than answers for the sheriff himself, john hanlin.ess conference we haven't heard many things including names of victims, accused shooter's name from this gentleman, haven't heard official cause of death, weapons used, details about two roseburg police officers first on scenario that the sheriff said were heroes. i talked with the president of the community college, she said concealed carry is something that's legal on campus at oregon. there were students, i talked to one of them just yesterday after the shooting who did have a gun on him at the campus. she said the truth of the matter is somebody like that and impair a phrasing here is not the one that stopped the shooter, it was heavily armed tactical sheriff's deputies, so she doesn't understand the conversation about concealed carry on campus. >> and the sheriff himself after sandy hook, which incident was it after which he wrote a letter to joe biden. >> reporter: that's right. he wrote a letter to joe biden in 2013, andrea. said he was opposed to some federal gun control legisl

>> reporter: that's right, sheriff john hanlin joins us for a couple minutes this morning. very busy man yesterday and overnight. first of all, sheriff, how are your people holding up with this? they've been at it for many, many hours now. >> that's right. they're holding up well. we're fortunate, however, that we've got support and assistance from a number of law enforcement agencies locally, statewide and federal agencies. so certainly without their assistance and help in this investigation we'd have a difficult time. >> reporter: i'm curious about that. did you ask for federal assistance? there seems to be a heavy emphasis on atf and fbi here. did you ask for that, or did people show up knowing you would need help? >> both. we asked for assistance, and a lot of them showed up knowing this was going to be a massive investigative effort. >> reporter: the question on everybody's mind here and around the country, of course, is why? any more information today? i don't expect you to tell me if you've discovered something that would lead you to know the motive behind the shooti

sheriff john hanlin says the gunman was enrolled in the class where the shooting took place. investigators find six weapons on the campus and seven more at the gunman's home. all the guns are legal. and true to his vow to politicize gun violence, president barack obama says this. >> it's because of politics. it's because of interest groups fund campaigns, feed people fear, and in fairness, it's not just in the republican party, although the republican party is just uniformly opposed all gun safety laws. >> let's begin tonight with dan simon at the public safety center in roseburg, oregon. dan, bring us up to date on this investigation. >> reporter: well, don, authorities at this point are not publicly discussing motive or what may have been going on in this young man's life. they do say he possessed an incredible amount of fire power. at the school, they found six guns. at his house that he shared with his mother, they found seven weapons. there was also a flak jacket at the scene. a flak jacket that actually had body armour. there were five magazine clips. so clearly, when y

kyung lah looks into it tonight. >> reporter: john hanlin heading the mass shooting investigation thateople at umpqua community college denying he posted a video to facebook. you didn't post it? >> no, no, no, i know what you're referring to. that's not a belief i have. >> reporter: that belief on this viral video. it ludicrously claims sandy hook is a hoax cooked up by the government to take citizens' guns away the video mored than 11 million times calls the victims' families actors and claims a murder first graders are still alive. on the sheriff's facebook page this post removed linking to the youtube video with this comment, this makes me wonder who we can trust anymore, watch, listen and keep an open mind and while he says he didn't post it, it was on his personal facebook page since 2013. >> the idea of having this man, it's beyond hypocrisy to have this man charged with leading the investigation. >> reporter: the brady campaign siting the facebook conspiracy post called for the sheriff to step down. >> he's a delusional conspiracy theoriest who needs to think about the things to

and sheriff john hanlin was one of the measure's opponents, even testifying against it. the measure passed anyway, with oregon governor kate brown signing it into law this past may. joining me now, pia corusone, senior adviser for americans for responsible gun violence solutions, the gun violence prevention group founded by her former boss, gabrielle giffords. we're grateful to have you here. >> thanks, chris. >> i want to be clear about the context of this information about this sheriff. we know nothing about the gun, how it was acquired in specifics and obviously this county sheriff is not responsible in any way for what happened today. but it is a window into the fact that that sentiment is a widely shared one and in some ways that is what folks like yourself are up against. >> yeah. i mean, you know, gaby talks about this a lot when she was in congress, that tucson felt very far away from washington and i'm sure this part of oregon feels very far away from the center of power in new york or washington where decisions are made. and you know, for a sheriff to make that

juan: that was sheriff john hanlin earlier this year. in 2013, remember, he is the one investigating the shooting at umpqua committed to college, he wrote a letter to vice president joe biden. in the letter, he asked the vice president not to tamper with the second amendment, writing -- "gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings. any actions against, or in disregard for our u.s. constitution and 2nd amendment rights by the current administration would be irresponsible and an indisputable insult to the american people." he goes on to say -- "i will not violate my constitutional oath. therefore, the second purpose of this letter is to make notification that any federal regulation enacted by congress or by executive order of the president offending the constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies, nor will i permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of douglas county oregon." your response to the she

and sheriff john hanlin was one of the measure's opponents, even testifying against it.he measure passed anyway, with oregon governor kate brown signing it into law this past may. joining me now, pia corazon, senior adviser for americans for responsible gun violence solutions, the gun violence prevention group founded by her former boss, gabrielle giffords. we're grateful to have you here. >> thanks, chris. >> i want to be clear about the context of this information about this sheriff. we know nothing about the gun, how it was acquired in specifics and obviously this county sheriff is not responsible in any way for what happened today. but it is a window into the fact that that sentiment is a widely shared one and in some ways that is what folks like yourself are up against. >> yeah. i mean, you know, gaby talks about this a lot when she was in congress, that tucson felt very far away from washington and i'm sure this part of oregon feels very far away from the center of power in new york or washington where decisions are made. and you know, for a sheriff to make that st

of years ago following sandy hook when legislation was moving its way through korngs he himself, john hanlinthe sheriff of douglas county, he wrote a letter to vice president joe biden saying regardless of what legislation was passed in congress, he refused to necessarily uphold any new gun control laws. and, in fact, he was just asked about his stance now that this is a situation that hits home. this morning on "new day" listen to his response. >> my position on it has not changed. >> so you still believe that it's not about gun laws. it's not about uniform background checks, none of those things would help, sir? >> again, i want to stay focused on this investigation and the welfare of the community and the welfare of the families and the victims in this horrific incident. and i'm not going to waste the time today or any time in the real near future having the firearm debate. >> reporter: again, that was sheriff john hanlin, who is continuing to investigate exactly what led up to this shooting and what motivation the 26-year-old gunman may have had. again, the gun control debate is, again,

. >> reporter: douglas county sheriff john hanlin: >> the shooter threat was neutralized and officers continued to sweep the campus, looking for other threats. >> reporter: with the 20-year-old male suspect now dead, officers searched students' backpacks for weapons and used dogs to check cars in the parking loss. lacey gregory was just 100 yourself away when the gunfire started. >> all i say was my friend alex. he apparently ran up past the shooting that was happening, up into the library, to let us know what was going on was real, and it was, indeed. people were getting shot, and i saw people running from the english hall across the courtyard towards every direction. it was-- it was crazy. >> reporter: authorities believe shots were fired both inside snyder hall and the nearby science building on the campus of more than 100 acres. students inside the school tweeted as the shooting happened, one saying, "students are runny everywhere, holy god." and then, "scariest thing i've ever experienced." students were evacuated on school buses to a local fairgrounds where they were reunited wi

we know the sheriff john hanlin held a short news conference an hour ago and said there are ten dead and seven wounded. since then, the closest hospital has reported that one of the critically injured taken there had died. and to make matters more confusing, the state's attorney general first reported at 10:38 this morning. a lone gunman walked into a classroom and reported everyone to lie face down on the ground. >> i looked out the window and there was a couple running away from the building and then i heard screaming. i looked out and i saw the people running. i said to the teacher we've got to get out of the heefr right now. >> now, two or three officers arrived quickly. the closest state patrol office is just about a mile away. they got into the shootout with the gunman. again, as i mentioned, a gun-free zone where a gunman was able to get four weapons on the campus here. i want to tell you that it's being described that there's only one security officer at the campus this morning. >> joining us now, kendra where the shots were fired. >> well, i first heard one single gunshot. a

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. >>> let's go right to sheriff john hanlin updating us on the massacre yesterday. >> -- posted at wwwh alert eugene.net so that you may have the proper spellings and details. the victims are lucero alcarez of roseburg, 19 years old. quinn glen cooper of roseburg 18 years old. kim saltmarsh-deitz of roseburg, 59 years old. lucas eibel of roseburg, 18 years old. jason dale johnson of winston 33 years old. lawrence lavine of glide, 67 years old. mr. lavine was the teacher. serena dawn moore of myrtle creek, 44 years old. trevon taylor of southerland, 20 years old. and rebecca ann karns of myrtle creek, 18 years old. at this time i'd like to introduce fire chief greg marlor of fire district number 2 who would like to make a few comments regarding two of our victims. chief. >> thank you, sheriff. it saddens me to announce that two of these victims were actually members of our immediate fire and ems family. obviously we are family and this hurts. the situation is personal to us and we share in the pain that this community is feeling right now. but i want to let everyone know our service and

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. >> and the sheriff of roseburg, john hanlin confirmed the shooter was a male. >> he was a male subject and i have no further information beyond that. >> can you confirm if he's alive or dead? >> the shooter is deceased. >> i'm sure it's very frightening for the responders. this is a small community. it's a community college so a lot of our friends and family attend this college. and it was a situation that was -- there was no answers for quite some time. i personally know of a number of people that i work with that had very strong concerns about the welfare of loved ones that are going to school there. >> al jazeera is following this story live from washington d.c. right now. and, tom, there have been confusing numbers of figures thrown around by the u.s. media. we still don't know the confirmed death toll. >> no. the authorities have been -- some authorities have been reluctant to give out an exact number. however, the attorney general of oregon earlier said that 13 people had been confirmed dead. that was not confirmed by the local authorities nor the governor at this point. more det

suddenly look, the same day probably 30, 40, 50 million people are tuning in the sheriff in oregon, john hanlin urged the media not to use the shooter's name, not to keep showing his picture, which would glorify his horrific actions. i do worry that we are giving some of these psychopaths what they want. >> once is enough. say his name, show his picture, shut up about him. >> i'm torn about it, too. i don't know the precise answer. i think it's legitimate to el no who the shooter is. >> i think we have to report initially, but to me the fourth day story about a trouble childhood, i don't care. i don't want to reward them. >> i agree, but in the end, in the social media age that we are living in, people are going to find that information. >>> absolutely. good note to end on. thank you very much for joining us this sunday. ahead, my interview with rand paul on his beef with tread cruz, donald trump and the coverage of his campaign. but first robert redford's new film is called "truth." . but will it tell the truth? we always were told we were german. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederh

sheriff john hanlin joined hundreds of other sheriffs writing letters to vice president joe biden writing gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings and we want on to say that politicians were exploiting the deaths of victims. it was recently ranked a d plus. that from the law center to prevent gun violence. while a permit is required to carry a handgun, there is no handgun license in oregon. buyers do not need a permit to purchase a gun and they don't have to register them either. let's bring into the conversation here a former new york city police officer, a professor now. darren, let's begin by opening this conversation with the speed at which people are starting to talk about the politics behind some of this. it is different compared to some of the other mass shootings that we've seen so far, isn't it? >> it is. often times you hear this argument of gun control. the second amendment is something that's guaranteed through the constitution. however, states and municipalities control gun control on the local level. as you see what the sheriff stated,

the main person was sheriff john hanlin and dr. rita cabot, the president of ucc.are pairing detectives and deputies with families to help through the grieving process and help identify the victims. they said this is a mass casualty. they know who the shooter is, we have named it, chris harper mercer, 26 years old. he says he will not say the name of the victim but unfortunately we are a news of record and we must identify him because that is our job. he said he didn't want to give the shooter any credit. he also thanked two heroic officers who entered the building and exchanged fire with that suspect. there are evidence teams from the fbi and law enforcement and the sheriff left to head to that vigil where our sayrah sidener is. joe deeden is there. rick, you're there. your reaction to what we've learned of this press conference? >> it's just continuing the grim -- the grief that the whole community feels. i got here fairly early on today, spent all day in town talking to people and the sense of grief is overwhelming. i've never seen it quite like this. you talk t

my name is john hanlin. i'm the douglas county sheriff. i have a group of partners joining me to address a number of information and detail this afternoon. we'll start with the investigation. specifically on tips. we are still in need of any tips, photos, videos that are relevant to this investigation. if you are unsure whether you have a relevant photo or video, please call and let us decide. the tip line is 1-800-call-fbi. again that number is 1-800-call-fbi, option 7. the timeline. we have a timeline here today on the board. you'll get an opportunity to look at it closer. the timeline is a basic timeline as to the events as they enfolded in the first hour of this incident. as you can see, officers responded immediately. the roseburg police officers and an oregon state trooper were the first officers on the scene that arrived within five minutes. two minutes later the officers tell dispatch that they have engaged the shooter. two minutes after that dispatch reports the shooter is down. you can see how things progressed beyond that. movin

. >> the sheriff in oregon, john hanlin urged the media not to report the shooter's name or use his picturewould glorify the action. i am torn on this and i worry we are giving some of the psycho paths what they want. >> once is enough, show the name, the picture, and shut up. >> i am torn, too, i don't know the precise answer. people have legitimate right to know the shooter. >> we have to report who the shooter is but for me the third and fourth day stories of a troubled story, i don't care, these are sick people with troubled lives and i don't care. >> i agree but people find that information. >> we need to show it less. >> there are outlets for people who are --. >> television doesn't have to make this a constant refrain because it is out there and anyone with a computer can get it. >> good note to end on, joe trippi, carol three, and chris stirewalt. >> rand paul and his beef with ted cruz, donald trump and the coverage of the campaign. robert redford has a movie about dan rather and the discredited story on george w. bush and the national guard. earch. 10,000 suggestions. who reads al

. >> meanwhile, we have douglas county sheriff john hanlin, a fierce opponent of gun control legislation and i talked to him about that earlier today. >> i know the conversation around guns and gun control is happening, is going to continue to happen, and it should happen in the heels of this tragedy. right now my focus is on the investigation and getting a complete and thorough investigation completed as timely a fashion as we can. >> jacob soboroff is outside the center where we expect to hear from sheriff hanlin. this has been the command center. what are the details we expect we can get from the deputy and his department? >> reporter: there are so many, thomas, other than details you cited, 10 dead, 9 wounded, we don't know that much from the sheriff himself. he hasn't confirmed names of victims or shooter's identity or motive, cause of death of that shooter. we also don't know details about the two roseburg police officers first responders on the scene that earlier today the sheriff told me were heroes, and of course the issue of gun control. thomas, earlier i had a chance to speak

sheriff john hanlin expected to give an update on the investigation as new questions are raised aboutlence in our country and how to better treat mental health issues. the tragedy reverberating through washington with lots of people weighing in already. here is president obama. >> right now i can imagine the press release is being cranked out. we need more guns they will argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? i would ask the american people to think about how they can get our government to change these laws. and to save lives. and to let young people grow up. and that will require a change of politics on this issue. >> he is not alone. we also heard from vice president joe biden and democratic presidential frontrunner hillary clinton. clinton says we need sensible drug control measures to save lives. biden causing shootings a consequence of dysfunction in washington. and then there is this sheriff hanlin who we expect to here from very soon, pushed back the white house on gun control in 2013. he sent a letter to vice president biden after the sandy hook shooti

. >> douglas county sheriff john hanlin says more information on the victim of the shoot willing have to wait until after family members have been notified. >> investigators say they recovered 13 weapons related to the investigation. six from the school, and seven more from the shooter's home. they say all the whens were purchased legally. authorities believe the shooter identified by other officials as chris harper mercer shot students and faculty in at least two buildings on campus. the victims were found in multiple classrooms. >> i heard one gunshot. i looked over outside. people were running away from the building. we have to get out of here, there are people running. we need to gun. chris: the gunman targeted christians in the rampage. people who knew him said he sometimes wore military style outfits but was quiet. now police and community members alike are trying to figure out what could have motivated a 26-year-old to carry out a senless tragedy. >> one person's deranged act may have indeed broken all of our hearts but he cannot prevent our hearts growing back bigger and stron

. >>> moments ago douglas county sheriff john hanlin readed names of the nine victims for the first time. here are his emotional words. the victims are, lucero alkarez of roseburg. 19 years old. quinn glen cooper, of roseburg, 18 years old. kim saltmarsh deitz of roseburg, 59 years old. lucas eibol of roseburg, 18 years old. jason dale johnson of winston, 33 years old. lawrence levine of glide, 67 years old. m mr. levine was the teacher. serena dawn moore of turtle creek, 44 years old. trevon taylor anpatt of southerland, 20 years old and rebecca anne carnes of myrtle creek, 18 years old. >> those are the names of the nine victims from the shooting yesterday. the sheriff would not name the shooter. but that's an emotional moment for us to finally learn the names and ages of the people who were shot. >> it's the most powerful part. you hear, it's just kills you. emotionally. >> several of the people were only 18 years old. colleges have become your community college, it's called that for a reason. i think it becomes where all your hopes and dreams are being sewn together for the future. i

sheriff john hanlin has a beef with gun control and vice president biden who was put in charge of a task looking at ways to get different gun w laws throughout the country. yeah. we're standing by here. lots of police coming and going. you heard the sheriff say they are going painstakingly through that campus, going through about 100 cars or stow clear all of them, cleared all the buildings and it's a long process with that much of a scene to cover. sean. >> thanks. dan springer on the scene and with us former p.d. detectives and fox news political analyst, juan williams. let's go to the comments of the sheriff. every media outlet has already given out the name. we've given the name out tonight. give the respect to all the families, our thoughts and prayers go out to these families. he says they know the name, not going to give him credit, encouraging the media not to. does that make a difference? >> i get what he's saying and always said all along in my whole career, why put the guy's name out there? why give him the sensationalism. in reality, it's leaked out. >> it has more than leake

. >> that was sheriff john hanlin saying the names of the nine murdered. they were reading statements. lieu sarah alcaraz wanted to be a pediatric nurse or a doctor. her older sister writes, i never got a chance to tell you how proud of you i was, i ache so much right now. rebecca anne carnes was just 18. her cousin writes, this isn't supposed to be how life works. lucas eibel was a quadruplet. he and his sister and two brothers graduated this year and attending the college on a scholarship. lucas was just 18. quinn glen cooper, his family says he and his brother cody were inspep rabble. jason dale johnson, 33, a proud christian according to his family. they say he had finally found his path. lawrence levine taught at ucc. he was teaching the class where the fatal shootings took place. he was 67. we don't yet know much about kim saltmarsh dietz, nor do we know much about treven taylor, he was the child of a local firefighter. and redeck wa carnes, she was a local paramedic's niece. cnn's dan simon is in roseburg for us. what is the latest that we've learne

all had been purchased legally but douglas county sheriff john hanlin suggested the number is not soal. >> in oregon, i mean, this is a hunting state, and firearms are popular in most households, yeah. >> reporter: as police search for what sparked the shootings, a picture of the gunman has begun to emerge. neighbors in this complex describe him as reclusive, and very close with his mother. his online social profiles show a fascination with guns and the irish republican army, and an apparent hatred for organized religion. witnesses at the shooting scene said the gunman demanded to know each student's religion before he shot them-- seeming to single out christians. he was also interested in mass shootings, writing in one blog post: "seems the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight." with that apparently in mind, sheriff hanlin made clear today he won't utter the killer's name. >> i continue to believe that those media and community members who publicize his name will only glorify his horrific actions, and eventually this will only serve to inspire future shooters. >> r

>> that's the news conference of course with sheriff john hanlin of the douglas county sheriff's departmentnews from the sheriff is there have been ten fatalities, ten dead in today's shooting. the sheriff says the names of the victims won't be released for 24 to 48 hours. he had no further information about the 20-year-old male shooter himself. let's bring in peter langman. he's a psychologist who has studied school shooters. he's author of the book "why kids kill: inside the minds of school shooters." so it was unclear there whether that count of ten included the shooter. but let's move on. what is it that drives these young men to do this? >> you know, there's usually a combination of factors. there's personality issues going on. but also a lot of stresses in their lives. usually a combination of academic failures, usually romantic or marital failures, occupational failures, just overwhelming stress. >> well, you know, high school is rough. and i think most people like me, most would say it's not the best years of your life. it can be the most difficult years of your life. it's puberty a

my name is john hanlin, i'm the douglas county sheriff.afternoon i'm able to share with you information about the deceased victims. the information i'm about to provide will be posted at www. -- i'm sorry -- dash flash alert eugene.net. so that you may have the proper spellings and details. the victims are lucero alka rez, 19 years old. quinn glen cooper of roseburg, 18 years old. kim saltmarsh-ditz of roseburg, 59 years old. lucas ibold of roseburg, 18 years old. jason dale johnson of winston, 33 years old. lawrence le vine of glide, 67 years old. mr. le vine was the teacher. serena dawn moore of myrtle creek, 44 years old. trevin taylor onpaw of southerland, 20 years old. and rebecca ann karnes of myrtle creek, 18 years old. at this time, i'd like to introduce fire chief greg marler of fire district number two, who would like to make a few comments regarding two of our victims. chief? >> thank you, sheriff. it saddens me to announce that two of these victims were actually members of our immediate fire and ems family. obviously we are fam

we first heard from douglas count sheriff john hanlin giving details what we know which is very sparsent but we did get confirmation that the shooter is 20 years old and he is dead. he was shot in shootout with first sonders described as heroic in responding to this. they got there after multiple deaths as many as 13 deaths. we heard from kate brown and oregon state police both confirming essentially what the sheriff said. for a small police department, melissa, to respond as quickly and as, with as deadly force as they did, was very heroic. melissa: some of the other details that we got from both of those press conferences, it is too early to determine if there was anyone else involved. we were told by douglas county sheriffs to think of families and victims, to be aware of their anguish. think of them first at this time. they described it as generally peaceful community. tom ruskin has been standing by and listening to this with us. he is a former nypd detective. what stuck out to you from what you heard? >> well, i mean that it is an active scene and for the sheriff to know all thos

the sheriff here, john hanlin, insisted he won't say the name of the shooter but he did post it on the website. his name is chris harper mercer, 26 years old of oregon. he was it turns out enrolled at umpqua community college in the class in which the shooting took place. the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms says the shooter owned 16 guns and nbc news is reporting according to law enforcement forces that he did suffer from mental illness. we learned a lot as well yesterday about the victims. their names, their faces and their story are starting to come out including the story of lucas iball. his family gave a statement. take a look. >> lucas loved future farmers of america. volunteering at wildlife safari and saving grace animal shelter. he was an amazing soccer player. he graduated from roseburg high school with high academic marks. he was a ford family foundation scholarship recipient. he was an umpqua community college scholar recipient. he was studying chemistry. >> reporter: unbelievably sad, alex. and something that hit the community particularly hard that was revealed yes

and that brings us to this letter sent by the douglas county sheriff john hanlin, he's the law enforcementfficer now dealing with his own mass shooting in oregon on the college campus. two years ago after sandy hook he wrote a letter to vice president joe biden. gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings. any actions against or in disregard for our u.s. constitution and second amendment right bis the current administration would be irresponsible and an insult to the american people. end quote. sheriff hanlin appeared on "new day" this morning. >> my position on it has not changed. >> you still believe that it is not about gun laws. it is not about uniform background checks. none of those things would help, sir. >> again, i want to stay focused on this investigation and the welfare of the community and the welfare of the families and the victims in this horrific incident. and i'm not going to waste the time today or any time in the real near future having the firearm debate. >> joining me now to talk about this, democratic senator richard blumenthal. he

. >> sheriff john hanlin, i know your community is going through a lot and appreciate you taking the time to talk to us this morning. >> thank you. >> when those shots began to rang out it was terrifying for the young people who were forced to scramble for safety. cassandra welding and sarah copper, both students in the school and in the classroom next door to the shootings. ladies, good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> i first have to ask how you both are doing and how you are processing what happened, having been so close to something so horrific. >> it's terrifying. it's absolutely terrifying. i never thought something like this would have happened at such a small community like this. i'm mortified. i don't know what to think. >> yeah. i'm in horrific shock right now and i just don't know what to think at this point anymore. i'm sflust out just in utter shock that this happened. >> cass drag, you were in a classroom next door, a different one than zayrea. can you describe what you saw and one of your classmates went out to see what was going on. can you

onto the national stage after the massacre at umpqua community college, douglas county sheriff a john hanlinough and is not afraid to share his opinion. >> i will not name the shooter. i will not give him the credit he probably sought prior to this world. and cowardly act. >> reporter: his stance on the shooter cheered by many but some of his other beliefs are putting up >>> dab in the middle of a fight over gun control. a letter he sent to vice president joe biden, one month after the shooting at sandy hook elementary. one of the deadliest in american history, gives everyone a good luck at his unwavering stance on gun control. it says in part, gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings. but now, a mass shooting has hit him at home. so we asked him about his thoughts as the entire country asks, why is this happening in america yet again? and what will stop it? can you talk to me about your stance on the fact that you feel like gun control is not a potential answer? >> i understand your interest in that and i can appreciate that you have an interest in my

got lots of new information on the investigation and the victims as you mentioned from sheriff john hanlin. most importantly, in addition to the victims' names, we foumd out the identity of the shooter, christopher harper mercer, 26. 13 total fire arms, six in his home, seven in his home and six on campus. he was enrolled it turns out at umpqua community college in the class in which the shooting took place and nbc news is reporting according to law enforcement that he was suffering from mental illness. today at a press conference there are lots more unanswered questions we hope to be answered including the motives of the shooter. cause of death, we still don't know if it was self-inflicted or from one of the bullets of the tactical officers that responded on the scene and more about the shooter's background. lots of unanswered questions still in roseburg. >> you've been spending time in the community over the last couple days. i don't so much -- it's hard to summarize the mood of the community but i've been reading a lot about the community's attitude towards guns. have you talked to peop

douglas county sheriff john hanlin heading the investigation that killed nine people at umpqua communitylege denying he posted a controversial video on facebook. >> you didn't post it? >> no. >> i know what's you're referring to. no, that's not a conspiracy theory belief that i have. >> reporter: that belief is spouted on this viral video produced by conspiracy theorists. it claims that sandy hook is a hoax cooked up by the government to take citizens' guns away. the video viewed 11 million times on youtube calls the victims' families actors. it even claims the murdered first graders are still alive. on the sheriff's facebook page, this post now removed linking to the youtube video with this xlent. this makes me wonder who we can trust anymore. watch, listen and keep an open mind. while he says he didn't post it, it was on his personal facebook page since 2013. >> the idea of having this man, it's beyond hypocrisy, to have this man charged with leading the investigation? >> the brady campaign citing the facebook conspiracy post urging him to step don. >> he's been put in a position to tr

. >> and the douglas county sheriff himself john hanlin has his own opinions on gun control. >> sure.perience, having worked in the great northwest and the rocky mountain region, those are areas that are generally very pro-gun. and that does not disinclude law enforcement executives and officials. >> like this sheriff? >> like this sheriff, absolutely. it doesn't mean that they're not for strengthening laws to keep criminals off the streets and keeping guns out thoofnof the hf criminals. but that also not against tightening legislation for criminals to be able to own guns. >> this investigation is just beginning. obviously, we still have an active crime scene where it occurred. then there is a lot of background that needs to be done. the firearms need to be traced. we need to determine what happened to the guns between the time the suspect possessed them and when they were legally purchased. >> from the terms of investigators trying to determine the motive, it is something they can really ever know or ascertain? >> well, at this point, there going to go back and they're going to exami

when i met with the governor and other elected officials, when i was listening to john hanlin, the statsrday are different from the stats i heard over my ear piece when i was listening to you folks. as far as how many dead how many wounded. there are too many unknown facts. >> it is early stages. but you can also understand that so many of us are tired of being here again and that is the concern. we want to make sure this kind of thing does not happen. that is a challenge for you there in your community. and we say thank you to you for joining us today. sthoox much for joining us. >> do you have one -- i have one thing to say. >> go ahead. >> we have a go fund me account i set up at 1:00 in the morning because i just could not sleep and i was like what do i have to do to help these people. ucc victim relief at go fund me. i'm begging people across the nation to help these folks in the healing process. we don't want anybody with a dead child or a dead spouse or a victim in the hospital to be burdened with the financial burden that is coming. >> thank you. we appreciate it. >> michaela. ho