he talks briefly at the end about a working group here in minnesota that he and commissioner john harrington, the public safety minnesota, they cochaired a working group, they got together last year, it's a diverse group including law enforcement stakeholders, community members, family members of individuals who had

i am john harrington. >> a clear line that we were operating under.was fundamental of the department of public stiff thaf we take an oath to support the constitution. we believe that our work is essential to allow everyone's first amendment right to have their voices heard. we were not deployed and we have not been deployed and we'll not be deployed disciple free speech. we'll not and can not allow unlawful dangerous behavior to continue. i am proud of our relationship with our commissioner guards and state patrol. we called and they came. literally it was it does not make it much more complicated than that. i am going

i'll >> john harrington again. the data we had from yesterday, there was about 20% of the folks arrested came from outside of the state of minnesota. we're tracking folks from arkansas, from kansas city, from iowa and illinois. and i believe michigan. in the pool of folks that were arrested yesterday. i still don't have the booking sheets yet from last night, so i can't give you any additional information on that in terms of the most current set of arrests. but 20% yesterday -- of yesterday's arrests had out-of-state addresses we were tracking. >> thank you. >> thank you for the question. i think this is one we still need to explore more. again, just in that moment of candidness, it's easier sometimes for us to believe, but that also, i think, people understand in this broader issue, that leads to some of the systemic issues. yes, sir. >> governor, can you talk about tonight and the next couple of days what people, particularly in the worst hit areas, should think about, you know, continue, to take precautions, tho

i'm joined today by attorney ellison, colonel langer and john harrington. i spoke this morning with much likeackson who valerie said a prayer for our state and for those grieving, for peace. then also said something very important. this is the moment where we start but every time we get to this place, we never start the process to make sure it doesn't happen again. that commitment amongst leaders in our community, watching this happen across the united states, another name be added and for those of us old enough, rodney king, mike brown and no george floyd. situation on the ground doesn't allow us at this time to tackle those issues. the very efforts in our community, our libraries, nonprofits andse government, light rail system, are all shut down from this. we have to restore order to our society before we can start addressing the issues. before we turn back to where we should be spending our energy, making sure justice is served, justice is served swiftly and we learn something from what george floyd gave on monday. i want to just be very clear. i am goin

time i would like to introduce the commissioner of the department of public safety, commissioner john harrington. mr. harrington: good morning. my name is john harrington. i am the commissioner of the department of public safety. governor walz tasked me to prepare options and capacities and capabilities to respond to the civil unrest protests, but more importantly and really more directly, to the unlawful behavior of the arsonists, the thieves, the burglars, the vandals who were tearing apart the city of minneapolis. i want to make it clear that that is i think a clear line of demarcation that we were operating under, because it is fundamental to the department of public safety. it is fundamental to the state patrol that we take an oath to support the constitution, and that we believe our work is absolutely essential to allow everyone's first amendment right to have their voices heard. we were not deployed, and we have not been deployed, and we will not be deployed to stifle free speech. but we will not and can not allow unlawful, dangerous behavior to continue. i'm particularly proud of our rel

i believe the commissioner of public safety, john harrington, and the governor is -- i will tell you,ou know who called for change? martin luther king called for. he was talking about police brutality back in the '60s. this problem is not a simple problem nor is it a localized problem. we all have to embrace change and move forward and maybe this can help us do it. >> chris: attorney general ellison, thank you, thanks for your time, sir, and it's good to speak with you. >> mr. ellison: thank you, si sir. >> chris: up next, we will talk with the head of minnesota's chiefs of police association about the use of force by law enforcement and how to prevent more unnecessary deaths. ♪ >> brought to you by charles schwab, own your tomorrow. up and down. depression to exuberance. and you could name many, many cycles like that over the years. my generation, having come through so many wars and so many things... persistence. it's the heartbeat of this country. stick with it. ♪ original crown molding, walk in closets... we do have a ratt problem. ♪ round and round! ♪ with love we'll find a way,

the minnesota department of public safety commissioner john harrington. he made some very strong comments suggesting that outsiders, people not living in st. paul or minneapolis were coming in. he called them terrorists. he said some of them may actually be organized crime figures, even white supremacists who are simply seeking to foment destruction and unrest and make the united states of america look bad. you are the former president of the naacp. what do you make of that? it's a very strong allegation that he's making right there. >> well, this is not a conspiracy theory. i spent time in minneapolis, in st. paul after jamar clark and philando castile were killed. i've been in cities across the country in the wake of police brutality. it's not unheard of for people to come from outside the community and yell the loudest and call for the most vigorously while looting and destroying the communities of others. if the russians can attempt to weaponize our elections, subvert our elections, why would it be a surprise that there aren't a few people who look to

my name is john harrington. governor walz tasked me to prepare options and capacities and capabilities to respond to the civil unrest protests but more importantly and really more directly to the unlawful behavior of the arsonists, the thieves, the burglars, the vandals who were tearing apart the city of minneapolis. among that, it's a clear line of demarcation that we were operating under. because it is fundamental to the department of public safety and fundamental to the state patrol that we take an oath to support the constitution and that we believe that our work is absolutely essential to allow everyone's first amendment right to have their voices heard. we were not deployed and we have not been deployed and we will not be deployed to stifle free speech. but we will not and cannot allow unlawful, dangerous, behavior to continue. i am particularly proud of our relationship with both the minnesota national guard, commissioner stroman, and colonel langer as the colonel for the minnesota state patrol

paul, melvin carter, the commissioner of the minnesota department of safety, john harrington, major general john a. swren senn, the adjunct general of the minnesota national guard, which will be fully deployed for the first time in 164 years as of this very shortly and colonel matthew langer, the minnesota state patrol chief, all echoing the same sentiment. that the people who are burning minneapolis, burning historic black and minority-owned businesses across that city, the people who are causing deliberate mayhem, deliberate mayhem are not people from the community, are not people protesting the murder of george floyd, that they are organized outside agitators, that they have come to this community to burn it, to destroy it and to hide behind the legitimate protesters. one of the most remarkable things we heard in that press conference was mayor melvin carter of st. paul saying that people who were out protesting legitimately saw others who they didn't know throwing incendiary devices and then literally hiding behind legitimate protesters, using them as human shields. wow, wow, and wow. j

i am the commissioner of public safety, john harrington. to prepare options and capacities and capabilities to respond to the civil unrest protests and more importantly and really more directly to the unlawful behavior of the arsonists, the thieves and burglars, the vandals who were tearing apart the city of minneapolis. i want that to be clear, i think it's a clear line of demarcation that we were operating under. in the fundamentals of the department of public safety, fundamental to the state patrol that we take an oath to support the constitution and that we believe that our work is absolutely essential to allow everyone's first amendment right to have their voices heard. we were not deployed and we have not been deployed and we will not be deployed to stifle free speech. but we will not and cannot allow unlawful, dangerous behavior to continue. i am particularly proud of our relationship with both the minnesota national guard, the department of national resources and colonel langan. we called and they came. it doesn't make it much more

from the governor of the state, the mayor made a brief appearance and we heard from commissioner john harrington who made very clear that they had a plan to stop these demonstrators and keep things under control but they were simply outmanned, they had crowds of demonstrators between hundreds and the thousand or more in multiple locations across the city and while they deployed the most officers and national guard troops on the ground they have ever done in the state of minnesota it was not enough to corral and keep these demonstrators from doing what they did, in part because according to authorities they were shooting weapons at police so they had to adjust their tactics to deal with incoming gunfire. they did make 50 arrests in one location but the level of resistance, this is a quote, increased exponentially. they have a need for more officers and national guard troops, they could be bringing in 1000 or more additional troops tomorrow. there could be u.s. army troops being brought in, several units deployed, potentially the governor says he's deeply disappointed the curfew was ignored but a

. >> i'm john harrington, commissioner of the department of public safety. the department of public safety was given the mission to restore order and to maintain and keep the peace. we have assembled the largest civil policing authority in the history of minnesota. i've been in policing for 40 years, and there has never been have had as many officers, deputies, and state law enforcement officials come together for a single mission. we are working together under a unified command to make sure that we can be out there to keep the peace, but i will tell you we have seen a change over the last couple of days. from the earliest demonstrations, which were peaceful demonstrations that were largely demonstrations where people were trying to express the horror and trauma of outng george's life snuffed -- not seeing peaceful demonstrations, and i'm not seeing, frankly, any empathy or any heart for mr. lloyd or for the communities that he loved and the communities he belonged to. not only a we saw change in the temperament and approach of what i would call rioters -- t

he talks briefly at the end about a working group here in minnesota that he and commissioner john harringtonblic safety minnesota, they cochaired a working group, they got together last year, it's a diverse group including law enforcement stakeholders, community members, family members of individuals who had been shot and killed by law enforcement in minnesota over the then number of years, that working group was run by rod davis who ran the cops office and the president obama administration. chris: i need to interrupt, we are short on time. i hear people watching this on tv saying good, were glad about the task force all of that, george floyd is still dead. >> 's absolutely, it's entirely tragic, what were trying to do we need to continue to work together, we have to get rid of this us versus them mentality, we have to continue the training that we put together in minnesota and across the country with bias, training is not everything but it's certainly a start, we need to do a better job in law enforcement and communities of color about recruiting new officers, i'm extremely concerned about

john harrington, the commissioner of the minnesota public safety said this -- >> i will tell you that the vast majority, the great people of minnesota, the great people of minneapolis who are still having their guts ripped out about the lloyd murder, i will call it a murder, that's what it looked like to me. i don't want to prejudice this from a criminal perspective. i'm just calling what i see it. >> similarly, the mayer of atlanta keisha lance bottoms last night said this. >> i am a mother to four black children in america. one of whom is 18 years old. and when i saw the murder of george floyd, i hurt like a mother would hurt. >> they both may be right. it looks the same way to me. but that's not to be decided with finality today. this officer and any others charged are entitled to a fair trial, including their version of the facts. and that will be the toughest test of our system. i want to know what you think. go to my website at this hour@smerconi hour@smerconish.com, answer the question, if you were a juror, would you presume derek chauvin to be innocent? joining me charles rams

well, me and the commissioner of public safety, john harrington, we had a working group on preventingdly force encounters. obama had 21st century policing. we need to fuel and accelerate the drive for permanent change, and by you coming to minneapolis, being in solidarity with us, you help assure people that the chance for justice might just be within our grass. -- grasp. i want to personally thank you for that. i want to thank reverend, who came in. i'm not going to quit, i know you won't and i know people who care about george floyd wouldn't quit either. ben krump is a lawyer, a fighter for justice, he's not going to quit. we're going to be in solidarity working together. >> i clearly have committed that we're going to, as we have both on this show followed cases, we don't determine outcome but we make sure that we cover when they need to be a case, when there's enough there. and in national action network, i can assure you we're going to be on this all the way to the end. and at the end, it still will be leaving a family with a tremendous hole. there is a human being here, and you

i believe the commissioner of public safety john harrington and the governor is, i will tell you do you know who called for real change? martin luther king called for it. he was talking about police brutality back in the 60s. this problem is not a simple problem, nor is it a localized problem. we all have to embrace change and move forward and maybe this can help us do it. jon: for more on this interview, let's go right to "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace who is joining us now. chris, great job with that interview. i was struck in listening to it that this is the top law enforcement officer in the state of minnesota who is not exactly giving a ringing endorsement to the police in minneapolis. chris: no. absolutely not. and he has been part of the effort to reform the police. look, we're going to see a lot of ugly stuff tonight. we're going to see a lot of violence on the street, jon. and, you know, there's talk about outsiders perhaps inflaming it, but i don't think we can lose sight of the legitimate grievances and concerns of a lot of those protesters, not saying that there's an

. >> commissioner john harrington of the department of public safety.esterday we put together a unified command structure, bringing together the st. paul police department and sheriff's department, minnesota state patrol, general jensen's men and women of minnesota national guard, we created a plan brought together one of the largest civil police forces that we have ever seen in the state of minnesota, the republican national convention in excess of 2200 officers total committees to keeping the peace. we had a clear mission, crystal-clear, the mayors have been crystal-clear. by 8:00 last night we began to see that we were going to operate on multiple different fronts of criminal behavior. they were actively engaged reports. and fans and east of hiawatha, hundreds in lake street. crowds for thousand or more in downtown. we reassessed the assets we had, personnel that we had, to be as many of those as we could be at. did not even with the numbers that have enough officers and personnel to meet those operations successfully. we picked missions based on our

at this time i would like to introduce the commissioner of the department of public safety, john harrington. goodssioner harrington: morning. i'm the commission of the department of public safety. -- walz wallace tasked tasked me to prepare capabilities to respond to the civil unrest protests, but more importantly and more directly, to the unlawful behavior of the thieves, the burglars, the vandals who were tearing apart the city of minneapolis. thatt to make it clear that is a clear line of demarcation that we were operating under, because it is fundamental to the department and the state patrol that we take an oath to support the constitution, and that we believe our work is absolutely essential to allow everyone's first amendment right to have their voices heard. and we not deployed, have not been deployed, to stifle free speech. allow will not and cannot unlawful, dangerous behavior to continue. i pam particularly proud of our relationship with the national guard, the department of natural resources, and the department of public safety, along with the minnesota state patrol. we called a

. >> commissioner john harrington. minister department of public safety. yesterday, we put together a unified command structure. a unified command. bringing together minneapolis police department, st. paul police department, sheriffs departments, minnesota state patrol, dnr, and general jensen's men and women of the minnesota national guard. we created a plan that brought together one of the largest civil police forces that we have ever seen in the state of minnesota. larger, frankly, than we had for the republican national convention, even. with well in excess of 2,500 officers total committed to the effort of keeping the peace. we had a very clear mission. the governor was crystal clear and the mayors have been crystal clear that our mission was to keep the peace. to maintain order. and to stop lawless behavior. by 8:00 last night, we began to see that we were going to have to operate on multiple different fronts of criminal behavior. with reports from st. paul that they were actively engaged. reports that we had individuals that were breaching the minne

. >> i'm john harrington, the commissioner of the department of public safety. we were given the mission by the governor to restore order and to maintain and keep the peace. we have assembled the largest civil policing authority in the history of minnesota. i've been in police for 40 years, and there has never been a time when i have had as many officers, deputies, and state law enforcement officials come together for a single mission. we are working together under a unified command to make sure that we can be out there to keep the peace. but i will tell you that we have seen a change over the last couple of days. we have seen from the earliest demonstration, which were peaceful demonstrations that were largely demonstrations of -- where people were trying to express the horror and trauma of having mr. floyd's life snuffed out, i'm not seeing peaceful demonstrations. and i'm not seeing, frankly, any empathy or any heart for mr. floyd or for the communities that he loved and the communities that he belonged to. last night we saw not only a change in the temperame

you heard john harrington, the public safety commissioner in the state of minnesota. he's saying basically there are thousands and thousands of rioters who are not really concerned about george floyd at all, the murder of george floyd, they are simply bent on the destruction of property -- i'm reading from my notes -- they were bent on hurting people, using explosive devices, molotov cocktails and then running behind the legitimate protesters outraged by the murder of george floyd, using them as human shields to run away. have you ever heard of anything like that going on inside a major american city? >> i'm glad to be here with my friend marc, both he and i grew up together and honored to serve as mayors of the city of new orleans. i want to reiterate and amplify what he said, nothing happening anywhere that can take away from the facts and the circumstances of george floyd's death. this is something that should enrage people in the united states of america. it cannot be forgotten, overlooked. there's nothing that in my service can justify what the police officers di

>> commissioner john harrington with the minnesota department of public safety. yesterday we put together a unified command structure at a unified command, bringing together minneapolis police department, saint paul police department, ramsey county sheriff departments, minnesota state patrol, dnr and general jensen's men and women of the minnesota national guard. we created a plan that brought together one of the largest civil police forces that we have ever seen in the state of minnesota. larger, frankly, than we had for the republican national convention even. with well in excess of 2,500 officers total. committed to the effort of keeping the peace. we had a very clear mission. the governor was crystal clear and the mayors have been crystal clear that our mission was to keep the peace, to maintain order and to stop lawless behavior. by 8:00 last night we began to see that we were going to have to operate on multiple different fronts of criminal behavior. with reports from saint pal tul that they were actively engaged. reports that we had individuals that were b

is vigorous, is thorough, is expeditious and i believe that the commissioner of public safety john harrington same and i believe the governor will do the same. so asking people to believe when they have been let down a lot is a lot to ask but what can we do other than do all that we can and that's what we're going to do and i do believe because i believe in the people to hold me accountable and others, i believe that we're going to get justice in this situation. i can't have any other belief than that and i have to believe i have reason to believe that, as well. >> keith ellis son, the minnesota state attorney general. thank you for joining us. this is a very, very intense time. thank you for taking time to be here with us. >> thank you, my pleasure. >> let me ask -- appreciate it. let me ask control room with the awkward delay. am i allowed to go to the reporter i just saw on camera as that was kicking off that police precinct house? is this still that love shot? >> reporter: yeah, rachel, i'm here, you see two police over there and one over there. this is the third precinct right now. prote

you heard the law enforcement officer, the chief law enforcement officer of the state john harrington, a friend of mine, former police chief of st. paul respected african-american leader say it today. that what he saw on that tape was murder. that has to happen. that's the number one thing as we look forward. the second is rebuilding our city, having adequate security to protect us from the vandalism while still allowing the peaceful protesters. and the third is a -- what we call a large scale investigation of what's been going on at the minneapolis police department. pattern and practice, it's called. and i have called for that from the justice department so that there can be fundamental systematic changes so we do not see this kind of racism in the future. and i think we know as the governor has pointed out, states across the country are dealing with this now. but what you see is pain. and what we need is action. >> why should the people of minnesota, of minneapolis especially people of color trust the justice department and the attorney general when the u.s. attorney was one of tho

department of safety commissioner john harrington came out and and and then gave the announcement that they had that they had arrested him he was actually i guess he had turned himself and the other really notable thing about this is that you know a couple of summers ago during when justin diamond was. when women officer that shot her there was a there was a back and forth between there was a lot of time between. that incident happening and then the arrest so this is pretty remarkable right of course that arguments will be a lot of them is saying that you know one is not enough they want all 4 in custody i haven't heard any announcements made yet about whether all 4 are whether the other 3 are going to be taken into custody. right ok so tell us more about the city in the sense you're getting in the city at the moment because you've been on the streets observing events and how things have been going you know the city well paint the picture for us what's the mood. so i went oh when i was last out and people were cleaning up work and blasts a lot of people were boarding up their windows a

general the minnesota national guard colonel langer of the minnesota state patrol commissioner john harrington i spoke with smarting with reverend jackson who much like valerie said a prayer for our state said a prayer for over those grieving that a prayer for peace and then also said something very important this is the moment where we start but every time we get to this place we never start a process to make sure it doesn't happen again and that commitment amongst leaders in our community watching this happen across the united states watching another name be added and for those of us who are old enough to rodney king and mike brown and unfortunately now we've got a george floyd. the situation on the ground doesn't allow us at this time it tackle those issues the very assets in our community our libraries our businesses those non-profits and government entities our light rail system are all shut down from this we have to restore order to our society before we can start addressing the issues before we turn back to where we should be spending our energy making sure that justice is served justic

linger of the minnesota state patrol and commissioner john harrington. i spoke this morning with rev. jackson who, much like valerie, said a prayer for our state and said a prayer over those grieving and said a prayer for peace. and also said something very important. this is the moment where we start but every time we get to this place we never start the process to make sure it doesn't happen again and that commitment amongst leaders in our community, watching this happen across the united states, watching another name be added and for those of us who are old enough to remember rodney king and mike brown and unfortunately now we've added george floyd. the situation on the ground is not allow us at this time to tackle those issues. the very assets in our community, our libraries, our businesses, those nonprofits and government entities, our light rail system are all shut down from this. we have to restore order to our society before we can start addressing the issues, before we turn back to where we should be spending our energy making sure that justice

i'm john harrington, commissioner of the public safety. >> as the department of public safety addressesence, you saw the news there that the former congressman, the attorney general of the state of minnesota will be taking over the investigation. our own gabe gutierrez is on the ground in minneapolis and, gabe, i wondered if you could talk us through the incident on the bridge that morgan chesky was reporting in the last hour especially for our viewers just joining us. >> reporter: hey, yes, many of the developments within the last few minutes, actually. first, let me show you where i am. i am here at the cup foods. this is where the incident with george floyd actually happened. a make-shift memorial has grown here. it has been the site of peaceful protests. as you mentioned, within the past hour or so at 5:45 central time, just incredible shocking video of this semi driving into what appeared to be a crowd of protesters, peaceful protesters on i-35w right here near downtown, minneapolis. we do understand the driver has been arrested at this point. no protesters were actually hurt. but

if you were watching that news conference with the governor you would have recognized john harrington. he said he would call it murder. that's what it looked like to him. he doesn't want to prejudice this from a criminal perspective he was just calling what i see at that point. so he's called it murder. he's the one who has made the announcement that kare 11 our affiliate reported. again, you know, these protesters have been calling for his arrest for him to be taken into custody for many days now. the family now of george floyd said it shouldn't just be the officer with the knee on the neck it should be the other officers involved as well. certainly with that new video that was able to be uncovered for nbc news the other two officers also kneeling on him, that does raise questions about their involvement. as we just had mr. vinegraft ago it might factor into more charges. potentially that third officer just standing around. we have to wait and see from all the reporting that's out there those other three officers have not been taken into custody but, again, there the officer there wi

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