norm ornstein, john heilemann, thank you. really appreciate it. >>> coming up, the deeply disturbed republican congressman mo brooks now says he was wearing body armor when he was cheering insurrectionists at the trump rally on january 6th before the attack on the capitol. and the justice department says it will not defend mo brooks in congressman eric swalwell's lawsuit against him for what he did that day. harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next. follow me. ♪ (realtor) so, any questions? (wife) we'll take it! (realtor) great. (vo) it will haunt your senses. the heart-pounding audi suv family. get exceptional offers at your local audi dealer. millions of vulnerable americans struggle to get reliable transportation to their medical appointments. that's why i started medhaul. citi launched the impact fund to invest in both women and entrepreneurs of color like me, so i can realize my vision and give everything i've got to my company, and my community. i got you. for the love of people. for the love of community. for

john heilemann is here, host and executive producer of show time's "the circus," which was just nominated. also the host of "the hell and high water" podcast. joining us, john figliuzzi, formerly of the fbi. david poth is also here. lucky for us, all three are msnbc contributors. john heilemann, who hired the hitman? >> huh. hello, nicolle. i think we all know who hired the hitman and i think the officers in that room knew who hired the hitman in that they described, yeah, bluntly and clearly where this investigation needs to go, and they know the truth of this. it was kind of part of the power of the day. you know, i have been doing this for 30 some odd years, and i have never seen the congressional testimony that's had more emotional impact than this. we all sort of on some level knew what these guys were going to say, and yet it was wrenching to sit through and to witness. i don't often -- i just, you know, have never felt this humbled watching congressional testimony by anybody, i think, in the time that i've been in this job. and so humbled and so grateful for these people's service

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i mean, john heilemann, like there is no long game anymore, right?country that investigating attacks on the united states capitol, deadly attacks incited by an ex-president or not. we will be a country where everyone can vote or 389 voter sprigs laws who change the arbiters of the count are going to -- i mean to your point, there isn't a long game to be played right now. everything seems very much up in the air. >> i mean i don't think anybody sensible -- tim can speak to this with more inside knowledge than i have, but i don't think anybody sensible thinks that republican -- if you are a republican right now that you think, well, you know, there used to be all of that talk about how if trump lost we would have a civil war in the republican party and the old, the establishment republicans would take on the trumpists and we all have seen what has happened here, right. that turned out to be utterly illusory. there is no long game that's in our imagination, a length of time that's meaningful for us who live here in a normal human life span where it is l

joining us, now, is john heilemann. nbc news and msnbc national affairs analyst.executive producer of show time's the circus. john, donald trump is famously an insomniac. tonight seems like one of the nights where sleep is gonna be very hard for him to come by. >> yeah. he'll be up watching don lemon over and over, again, because he likes to hate watch that. the other network. you know, lawrence, i was going to say, as you were going through the investigations, i was thinking that you and i have both been investigated a fair amount in our lives. i'm not sure whether you spent time behind bars but i have. i don't think i have ever been the target of three investigations, simultaneously. so i think trump's probably -- you know, he's faced some bad situations and obviously, the biggest problem for him is that he no longer has the shield of the presidency. and you can see him, just in the way he is dealing with the -- the -- the difficulties he is in right now. you can see how desperately he's, already -- he's, like, trying to think about how i can get back in that wh

norman ornstein, john heilemann the thank you for starting us off tonight. appreciate. it the deeply disturbed republican congressman mel brooks now says he was marrying -- wearing body armor when he was cheering insurrectionists at the trump rally on january six before the attack on the capital and, the justice department says it will not defend mo brooks in the lawsuit against him for what he did that day. harvard law professor joins us next. sor joins us next and one we explore. one that's been paved and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure. you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l icy hot. ice works fast. heat makes it last. feel the power of contrast therapy, so you can rise from pain. open talenti and raise the jar. to gelato made from scratch. raise the jar to all five layers. raise the jar to the best gelato... you've ever tasted. talenti. raise the jar. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's you've ever tasted. coverage customizer tool? sorry? well, since

i was watching, and john heilemann, i was actually telling myself this is going to cut through. i understand we live in crazy age. i understand there's a personality cult. i understand all of these things, but so many of those people who have not wanted to face the truth about january 6th respect cops, respect law enforcement officers and will listen to this and at least they will be afforded a bear minimum of respect, and yet on other networks, you actually had people saying january 6th was much adieu about nothing and that these police officers were just actors. >> yeah, man, i was -- joe, i was, you know, i have been watching congressional hearings for 30 plus years. i know you have been watching them that long, and i don't think i have seen anything like it in terms of just one's emotional visceral reaction to. never seen anything like it, and i've never felt more -- i've always respected people who come forward and tell the truth. these people, you're in the presence of genuine heroes, and i felt, you know, grateful and humbled by their sacrifice, and kind of in awe in some

. >>> and joining our suggestion now, john heilemann, executive editor of the recount, where he hosts the hell and high water podcast. also with us, zerlina maxwell, host of the program "zerlina" that airs on peacock. i've got my little scorecard here and we've got a bipartisan agreement in the senate on one piece of this infrastructure bill. we now have the left side of the democratic party in full support of what bernie sanders has managed to accomplish in the senate budget committee on the $3.5 trillion democrats only package. you've heard from jon tester. senator warner is on that budget committee. he basically represents the manchin side of the democratic party. it really looks like all the boxes have been checked on both of these bills at this point. >> except writing the text of the entire thing. but certainly the framework for these bills and i think what people are willing to agree upon before going forward with the procedural votes is a boon for this administration. i think -- i mean president biden is right. people wrote off his ability to be ail to get this across the fini

john heilemann and harry litman are back. harry, first, this was an olc opinion. is basically saying they got it wrong. our friend joyce vance posts a provocative question. what else might they have gotten wrong? >> it's a good illustration on the point john was making between balancing transparency and empowering the rank and file but also making the policy changes. this is a big one and, by the way, they did get it wrong. this really seems like a dubious opinion. the law is crystal clear the chair of the house ways and means committee says can i have this please and the law says you shall give it to them. the law doesn't even say you need a valid legislative purpose. some people suggest that but if you did the doj found it and plainly there is and it's interesting that pelosi. many could have stated she was the very one they were citing before, it couldn't be more clear the old opinion was wrong. the reason you needed it before was to investigate these conflicts of interest. a legitimate thing for congress to do for that reason. there's no wriggle room at all an

our friend john heilemann is still here.ngela merkel dodging a question about dealing with question dealing with president biden after the previous occupant. angela merkel had very warm relationships with every american, she had a warm relationship with president obama. in this new book we have been talking about all day today, the ex-president, donald trump described her as a word that we can't say on television, the b-word merkel. this ability is another really important touch stone of a return to normal bilateral relations with our closest allies. >> i used to tell people i had a crush on angela merkel. i think she's simply splendid chancellor and international diplomat, doctrine physics. i may add having lived in germany for six years, germany is a center peace powerful of the european union, economic human rights and they had problems and been a long standing allies since 1945. to have positive relationships with this democratic nation is vital. the fact mr. trump was so childishly and with all european leaders, putin a

zerlina maxwell and john heilemann thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thanks lawrence. >> thank you. and coming up. life change today. changed in a big way for a 16 million pea million children. those -- their parents received the first monthly installment, monthly payment of $300 in the tax credit. president biden called it historic. we will be joined by a mother who received her first child tax payment today and the congresswoman who has been working for decades to make this happen. that's next. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ summer is a state of mind, you can visit anytime. savor your summer with lincoln. (brad) how is apartments-dot-com so sure that we'll still have the most listings in the future?n visit anytime. by going there. (man) no listings in 2178! (brad) with the possible exception of the year 2178. apartments-dot-com. the most popular place to find a place. (customer) hi? (burke) happy anniversary. (customer) for what? (burke) every year you're with us, you get fifty dollars toward your home deductible. it's a policy perk for being a farmers customer. (customer) do i

>> john heilemann, and jim manley thank you both very much for starting us off tonight. >> thank you. >> and coming up, parents across the country are getting their letters from president biden telling them about the expanded child tax credit with started showing up via direct deposit in bank accounts july 15th. congressman connor allred will join us next on with that money will mean to families in his districts and what more help people can expect and hope for indeed semi crowds only infrastructure bill. ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. the dove beauty bar makes my skin feel fresh. now that's eatin' good i've encouraged serena my best friend to switch. feels moisturized and clean. my friend stefanie, her skin was dry. i'm like girl you better get you some dove. she hooked me up. with a quarter moisturising cream, dove cleans effectively and cares beautifully. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory sup

affairs analyst host and executive producer of showtime's the host and hell and high watt recount, john heilemannstarts right there. what are the reactions? >> well, hey, mika, it's been a really, this has been, this period over the last week when we started to see these inside accounts. this is the rutger and carol lennick these last couple days provided an incredible amount of fodder. almost all of it in some sense confirming and making vivid and making real a lot of things that were -- that we all kind of felt in our guts, we saw some contemporaneous reporting. but these guys have gone so deep now into putting flesh on the bones to just how, not just how -- what a perilous moment it was for the country and how dangerous donald trump was. those are the headlines, it seems to me. you talk about yesterday the joint chiefs and his concerns about the right stag moment. now the excerpt this morning. s the staggering for his lack of care for mike pence, we knew he was attacking pence at the moment pence was if physical mortal danger. we talked about this on the show in real time or shortly thereafter