thank you so much for making some time for us. >> thank you. >>> i want to come back to john heilemann. your very smart observation that this was the first big very public broadcast wall to wall test of his leadership and it's my sense i think it's yours, that he more than passed it. >> he did. it's worth saying because it might not be totally obvious, how difficult and it's like herding cats, sometimes herding cats. it's a very difficult job. trying to keep them together. so the impulses that the democrats have in these situations, there will have been people who say they are not trying to help kevin mccarthy, but there will be democrats who said let's use this to cut a deal. we'll support mccarthy or we'll vote present to help mccarthy in order to get ukraine aid. something very valuable thing. they could have gone that direction. another analysis would have been let's -- we can't trust mccarthy, we don't like working with him. but the next goon is going to be worst. so maybe we should stick with the devil we know rather than the devil we don't know. the moderate factions of the part

he passed his first big political test with flying colors yesterday. >> yes. >> john heilemann, thankjohn mentioned ukraine yesterday at the white house. national security counsel official john kirby reiterated u.s. support for ukraine despite the recent drop in funding by congress in the latest spending bill. >> as ukrainians wage a tough counteroffensive, as their children continue to get ripped from the bussom of their families, a lapse in support for even a short period of time could make all the difference on the battlefield. just as critically such a lapse in support will make putin believe that he can wait us out. and that he can continue to conflict until we and our allies and our partners fault. >> meanwhile, "the new york times" reports that russia's strategy to secure victory in ukraine is to outlast western support. according to the times, quote, u.s. officialsai they are convinced putin intends to try to end u.s. and european support for ukraine by using his spy agencies to push propaganda supporting pro-russian political parties and by stoking conspiracy theories with th

john heilemann, i would like to bring you into this conversation.out of lebanon. there are protests in beirut. these are live pictures. this is happening right now. protests outside the u.s. embassy in lebanon. of course, tension spreading across the region, a region that is right now in such disarray and under such stress and trauma, so much so, that a meeting, a summit of arab nations with president biden was canceled as the president was poised to make his way to the region. president biden, as everybody knows, decided to take the trip anyway. standing alone with israel and meeting with war cabinet and talking with first responders and victims and looking at intelligence information about what exactly happened to the hospital in gaza city, but again, as you can see, the unrest is spreading. >> yeah. mika, it's -- this is, as soon as the hospital was hit yesterday, it was inevitable that there was going to be first dispewtation over what happened, second, a lot of -- profound lack of clarity for a period of time given who was responsible for the n

. >> john heilemann has sat down with us.wo we'll be going live to the latest news conference in lewiston, maine, with any updates. it is a sick thing that should never be normalized that we have other mass shootings covering. but that is the truth about our country. this is the truth about our business. to that point, fred guttenburg, joined us yesterday with some of his thoughts and reflections about what these families are going through. and something extraordinary is what frank just said. at this hour yesterday my colleague antonia hilton was explaining that because of the gruesome, hideous nature of the weapon used by the suspect in the shooting identifying some of the victims was a gruesome and lengthy process. these are the parts of the story that really hard to talk about that i question how much of these parts of it we should cover. but some of the inertia of doing nothing is wrapped up in the intublt to hold a mirror up to ourselves as a country. >> the perpetrator of these things mentally disturbed which is often t

nbc news national affairs analyst, john heilemann. and for the reporter, michael snell. to 217. that's the number this time around. there's 433 members in the house. conventional wisdom is that there's no consensus candidate. how does this play out from here? >> good morning, willie. the race is in a dead heat. majority leader steve scalise, house judiciary chairman, jim jordan. both have picked up endorsements from across the gop conference. no one is close to that subsequent 217 votes needed to be speaker. how this is going to play out right now, is an open question. one thing is it is going to be a lengthy process. house republicans will huddle behind closed doors with the intent of nominating a candidate for speaker. the big question is whether or not the conference will accept a rules change to indicate a speaker from the majority of a conference from the 217-vote number. the point is to avoid a messy takeover for speaker. that will give us an idea of how the speaker's race plays out. >> given the massive horrific assault on israel, sparking a war in retaliation, th

. >> as john heilemann said today, we are all sean hannity. >> page 6 of the paper of record this morning "the new york post," john lemire points to, "wall to wall taylor swift and travis kelce." no other topics covered on the entire page 6. >> maybe it is a bit of a gag, but every single item on page 6 is taylor swift related. >> hold it up. >> here you go. this camera here. every single item is taylor swift related. >> come on. >> there it is. >> this shows it's not just the nfl. everyone right now, it is taylor swift's universe, and we're living in it. >> feel like everybody wins. who is mad about this? >> yeah. >> taylor swift was at this, at this. >> once again, "the new york post" proves why it is "morning joe"'s newspaper of record. >> think about the moment when -- the power of madonna, michael jackson, and bruce springsteen at their zenith in the mid 1980s, roll it up into one, multiply it by ten, you have taylor. >> a flaming supernova, as oasis would have sung. >> she's blotting out the sun at this point. she's the queen of all media. >> she is the sun. >> michael steele, as i

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and tim miller, john heilemann and symone sanders townsend.ter wednesday's massacre left at least 18 dead and 13 injured. let's bring in sam brock live from lewiston, maine. what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning. the latest is we are still lacking a lot of detail here. this sprawling manhunt has exceeded 36 hours with no sign of card. maine state police say they're not sure what state he's in. they're not even sure if he's alive. the clock is ticking this morning on an all-out manhunt for 40-year-old robert card, who is considered armed, dangerous and likely off the grid. after the mass shooting in lewiston, maine, that left 18 people dead and more than a dozen injured. >> out of nowhere he just came in and there was a loud pop. >> reporter: card is accused of shooting with an assault rifle at a bowling alley and then a sports bar. authorities expanding a shelter-in-place order as overnight they executed a search warrant at the card family property, calling for anyone inside to come out with their hands up, eventually leaving after ther