jill colvin, phillip rucker and john heilman, thank you. >>> coming up, nearly a year and a half after the president was sworn into office, his son-in-law jared kushner finally gets his permanent security clearance. at the same time, we learned that kushner had a long second session with the mueller team. >>> and later, it may be baseball season, but tonight we'll talk about football for just a bit. after the nfl releases its new policy on the national anthem. don't tell us politics could be involved. "the 11th hour" getting started on a wednesday night. or discover magic when you hit the open road. with the free audible app, your stories go wherever you do. and for just $14.95 a month you get a credit, good for any audiobook. if you don't like it exchange it any time. no questions asked. you can also roll your credits to the next month if you don't use them. so take audible with you this summer... on the road... on the trail... or to the beach. start a 30-day trial and your first audiobook is free. cancel anytime, and your books are yours to keep forever. no matter where you go this s

white house reporter for the associated press prks phillip rucker, a pulitzer prize winner, and john heilman, co-author of game change and double down and the circus on showtime. let's back up that democrats are being included in one of these sessions tomorrow after kind of noticing they were excluded before. before. as a practical matter, won't that mean democrats coming before cameras tomorrow to say this wasn't a spy ring. this wasn't a spy, this was a human informant. >> very possibly, brian. the development of adding that second meeting to include democrats and the full gang of eight is really a victory for the norms of this process. that's how these meetings are normally conducted. although devin nunes objected to sharing his briefing with any democrats on the h ill. so there was a real push by senator schumer and other democrats to be included in that meeting and they are going to be. and it means that they're going to be a part of the public battle in the hours after those meetings to define what this information is exactly. remember, we don't know exactly what these documents are go

we're joined by john heilman, the cohost and executive producer of show time's the circus. joyce vance, former federal prosecutor. she's an msnbc reporter. and jennifer rubin, an msnbc contributor. i want to go to you joyce vance. here is an attorney general of new york state, who is engaging in behavior that he has to know, according to jane mayer's reporting, is going to get him in trouble, especially in the position he's in, it would get any man in trouble in any position. >> it's so hard to contemplate why we hear these stories over and over again. perhaps there's a sense he's powerful enough he can outrun the story, he can outrun any sort of allegations that come up, but in the end this caught up with him fairly quickly and an unfortunate juncture in our country's history where he was in charge of several weighty investigations. >> eric schneiderman is not married, was not married during any of this conduct that's been reported here and his ex-wife and mother of his children has issued a very supportive statement about eric schneiderman tonight. jennifer rubin, i wante

john heilman is stealing the keys. do you want to read it? >> no, please. >> still ahead, the president's conspiracy theories get whacked on fox and among some of the president's most reliable republican allies. eugene has the giggle. michael cohen back in court today. what investigators found in a shredder. and donald trump finally weighs in on roseanne barr. you won't believe what he's most irked about. spoiler alert, it isn't the racist tweet she was fired over. . need something printed? the business advisors at office depot can assist with exactly what your business needs to grow. get your coupon for 20% off services, technology and more at office depot and officedepot.com. technology and more when it comes to strong bones, are you on the right path? we have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture, so with our doctors we chose prolia® to help make our bones stronger. only prolia® helps strengthen bones by stopping cells that damage them with 1 shot every 6 months. do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pre

i'm certain it will be john's. >>> joining john heilman and me at the table, emma mcmullan who recently for president as an independent. rick stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, former managing editor, reverend al sharpton, action network and host of politics nation here on msnbc. i want to add one more element to the dumpster fire today, rick, and ask you to respond. jennifer ruben writes in "the washington post," what is wrong with these people? this is the political culture blessed and cheered on for evangelical leaders for nothing trump or his cronies do paying hush monday to a porn star or endorsing an alleged child molester is over the line. they're not enablers are bad people, but bad people sure do flourish. >> i'm a great believer that any organization takes its cues from the head that of organization. i actually was thinking about this today. i worked for awhile for jack boble, the founder of vanguard. he hated cursing. he was revolted by cursing. i used to curse a lot. i stopped -- i never -- you take, you take your cues from the person who is the he

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john heilman, executive producer of showtime's the circus. we shortened your title after yesterday. >> because you complained. [ laughter ] >> that's what happens when the host whines. when the host whines the script gets shorter. that's how it works in television. >> you get two titles. >> under the bus. nick also with "the new york times." elise jordan former bush white house and state department, someone whose title i'll seek to make longer because she's well-behaved. all cnbc analysmsnbc analyst an contributors. frank figliuzzi, let me start with you. we're trying to break this down. the president is investigating a counter intelligence investigation into his campaign. is that appropriate, ethical and legal? >> there is a strong argument the president should be recusing himself of anything to do with the investigation of himself. and now today, nicolle, the presence of emmet flood, even if it was just to make introductory remarks, clearly now creates a conflict. we now -- we have intelligence heads briefing the president's defense attorne

john heilman was watching "the daily briefing." take a look. >> early childhood education.k about how we fund -- >> the house freedom caucus still doing the the presidents bidding trying to undermine the mueller probe. do you want to help me pack? >> dana: aside from the terrific product placement, i love that he watches with his dog. >> jesse: very exciting. juan williams. >> juan: my son is getting married in a few weeks and this weekend he had his bachelor party. there he is with the guys and they are on their trip to the bourbon trail in kentucky. the guys included his big brother tony and they made their first stop at woodford reserve. here are the beautiful tanks used to distill the world famous drink. here is my son tony with barrels of bourbon. here is rafi and one of the groomsmen at the wild turkey distillery. when the guys got home, we continued the celebration. look at the cake. it's a delicious frosted confetti cake made by my daughter. i just can't believe. that was unbelievable to me. >> kimberly: so talented. >> dana: was mine better than juan's? >> jesse: c

i was about to say you heard it here first, hurtling toward the end from john heilman. that's your next book, right? thank you so much for scaring us. when we come back, maybe they should have waited a little longer before printing that challenge coin typically issued to commemorate accomplishments with donald trump and kim jong-un's faces on it. that summit now in question. >>> also the commander in chief goes rogue on the open information highway using a cell phone that's as vulnerable as, i don't know, home e-mail servers? stay with us. i never thought i'd say this, but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected... ...and pretty. always discreet boutique. at fidelity, our online u.s. equity trades are just $4.95. so no matter what you trade, or where you trade, you'll only pay $4.95. fidelity. open an account today. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has be

also with us john heilman, national affairs analyst for nbc and msnbc, and joyce vance is with us, former federal prosecutor, a professor at the university of alabama school of law and an msnbc contributor. michael avenatti so do you have the answer to your question about what michael cohen was up to there in the lobby of trump tower? >> we have the answer, lawrence, but we're not going to disclose it tonight. let me say this, i tweeted this out moments ago. i think when the truth relating to this meeting comes out shortly, it's going to redefine the word ugly. when the truth comes out relating to what michael cohen was doing there that day in connection with these two individuals in this elevator at trump tower, we know that michael flynn was also there that day. and, you know, lawrence the problem is is that michael cohen was not a registered lobby yes, i am, not a registered foreign agent he had no formal role in connection with the transition, ultimately no formal role in the administration. i don't think he's taking these guys upstairs to pick up to-go dinners or anything of that nat

john heilman is back. he has the title of nbc -- how did you get this title? an msnbc national affairs -- >> i want to make it complicated for you. really long. >> co-host executive producer of circus, mara gay, "the new york times" editorial board. >>> as the resident person smarter than all the rest of us on the law, general hayden seemed to suggest that tomorrow's meeting may not simply be obliterating norms in terms of how you share classified sensitive intelligence with the hill, but that it may be breaking a law. >> right. so, if this is a meeting with congress, then the president doesn't get to exclude the democrats. what the republicans are saying that the justice department is affirming, this is a meeting with people who have concerns about the documents that aren't being revealed to the congress. and they're saying the democrats don't have those concerns. they're okay with the process. so, we're just doing this meeting for people who think we should be doing something different. we just want to hear their concerns. whether you believe that is a diffe

joining tuesday tea table, jason johnson politics editor the root, msnbc contributor, john heilman, co-hoste irof the circus, paul butler former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor, and david jolly, former republican congressman. your description of mueller is pretty spot on. >> yeah, i was struck by donny. he went through, he talks about personal brand audits. the reason i asked him, sounds like a cheesy thing. i said look, what happens in court matters a lot clearly in the legal realm is super important. but the reality is we saw with clinton and other cases, ultimately this can be a political process, impeachment is a political process, not a quasi-legal process, but not fully legal process. what the court of public opinion thinks matters a lot and what donald trump is trying to do right now when you think about his strategy is to try to say, i'm talking all this stuff out of the legal realm and i'm going to throw it all to the body politic and say, witch hunt, hoax, conspiracy, no collusion, and try to get enough public support that when the day comes, the day of reckoning come

. >> john heilman, how remarkable it is, steve schmidt touched on this, abraham linken, if you read anyas seen as a backwoodsman, as being crass. even throughout his first term, people mocked him continually. yet lincoln and another man, grant, who was always underestimated, his own troops. there's stories in chernoff's biography, his own troops mocked him the first day. by the third day they would march on any battlefield and die for him. these two common men saved our union and still stand as an extraordinary example of who we can be. >> it's trou, and i feel like i'm almost the wrong person to be speaking of this just because jon meacham can speak more to the power by which time, the passage of time and the change that happens in the country, helps us to understand better who are nomet well understood i their eras. one never knows who greatness will kind of be bestowed on later. harry truman, another person in that category. i'm not sure trump will ever have that kind of reevaluation but it has happened before and we may see it happen again. >> meacham will be back all week as we loo

i think john heilman once said that most of donald trump's tweets are confessional in nature.ago, he was actually -- or his people, it looks like, were spying on obama officials and trying to dig up the sleazyist dirt they could on them to try to undermine the iranian nuclear deal. talk about the almost criminalization of politics. >> and i want to know more about this, because it could affect me frankly, it's not just public policy, because according to "the new york times," this is all i know about it, several reporters, jeff goldberg from "the atlantic," from "the new york times," myself, who had been covering ben rhodes, the iran deal. i spent years covering the iran deal. i was on the trips every step of the way for years in vienna for that final month. that we apparently were somehow involved or our names came up in the investigation. i don't know whether -- i mean, we simply don't know what the involvement is. that's all i know. >> there's so much -- sometimes you have to step back and look at the fact there's so much dirt being kicked upped. a story like this, which is