john herbst. coming up, we have an insider view of the rise of the craft beer industry in the united states. the cofounder of the brooklyn brewery. also, i will speak to the former los angeles laker rick fox and get his thoughts on who should buy the los angeles clippers. that is next. ♪ >> the beer business in new york city seems to be donning. when schaefer and rheingold close their doors it was in 1976. in the 1980's craft brewers such as brooklyn brewery started shaking up the industry. craft brewers account for 14% of by dollarsrket spent. join me the cofounder of brooklyn brewery, steve hindy. he's the author of a book titled "the craft beer revolution." steve, always a pleasure. thank you for being here. what is right the book? >> i've been involved in craft beer for 26 years. having been a former journalist, i've been fascinated by the development of this industry all across the country. i've been collecting stories year by year and thinking i have to write this down. it is an amazing stor

then john herbst talks about ukrainian elections and continued unrest with russia. then, an examination of president obama's management style. and we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal" is next. ♪ good morning. today in "the new york times," the president prepares for major foreign-policy address. he will face the class of 2014 west point on wednesday. the shooting took place in santa barbara but killed six and wounded more than a dozen, and in recess for the memorial day holiday, the house returns on wednesday. we will begin with the topic that is the subject of a new book and an op-ed today in "the new york times." the war on drugs.

. >> i want to thank you for joining me, john herbst, currently eurasia center director at the atlanticouncil . coming up next, we will travel to a more tranquil location. i will speak to the chief executive of sandals resort, and we will talk about rubbing his all-inclusive vacation empire. details next. ♪ >> summer -- yes, it is around the corner. it will happen, so, just relax. maybe get a little relaxation at an all-inclusive resort. how does that sound? joins me, the chief executive of sandals resorts international. they have 24 locations. the two have you with us. tell people a little bit of history of the sandals resorts business. >> we have an awesome history. my dad founded the company in 1981. he is a caribbean beach bum, and he took his philosophy of going beyond with customer expectations and satisfaction levels. one hotel at a time, we have grown to 24 and are now the caribbean's largest employer. the early 1980's, he said he did not know what he was buying. he bought a rundown hotel with 19 nine -- 99 bedrooms. we kept building, put in new services. we were the first to pu

then john herbst. the former ambassador to ukraine. examinesditor-in-chief president obama's management style. and we will take your calls and you can join the conversation at facebook and journal -- twitter. washington journal. by that some :00 a.m. on c-span a.m.ve at 7:00 john carlin on the indictment of five chinese officials. after that, commencement speeches from around the country. and a chance to see the discussion of the top breakthrough technologies of the year. c-span's new book sundays at eight includes christopher hitchens talking about his lifestyle. >> there's a risk in the bohemian lifestyle. i decided to take it. whether it is an illusion or not, i don't think it is, it helped my contribution. it stopped -- helped my concentration. itld

host: john herbst is currently at the united defense -- he served as ambassador to ukraine until 2006 for being with us. what are you looking for in the election? guest: turnout. i high turnout would give legitimacy to the outcome of the referendum. the second most important thing is who's going to win, and will someone win outright in this vote. -- poroshenko has high polls. -- if hes the boat, gets the vote, he will become president. if there is a runoff, it will againstly be poroshenko someone else. host: joining us live on the phone is michael birnbaum, he is correspondent from the washington post. thatfront-page story says turnout today is based on generational issues, can you explain? guest: yes, there are many divisions in ukraine right now. there are regional divisions, there are western versus ukrainian divisions. the very big division here right now is that of young people versus old people. young people who were born or grew up in a ukraine that was independent from the soviet union, versus their parents and grandparents who matured in the soviet era. those two groups have