ambassador to ukraine, john herbst says who wants nato missiles out of eastern europe and wants a commitment that ukraine and other countries surrounding russia will be permitted to join the nato alliance so prudent things by believe in you may be able to get something. the president has promised severe sanctions. should russia invade ukraine. secretary of state antony blinken renewed that warning last week there will be massive consequences. that's the language is massive consequences. russia, but republicans still think the president has been tough enough on putin. this is texas senator ted cruz on the senate floor earlier this month. >> if we see russian tanks in the streets of kiev. it will be because joe biden surrendered to putin and to show the seriousness of the situation. this is the second time this month that the 2 presidents have spoken reporting in washington rashad hudson, back to you.

ambassador to ukraine, john herbst says who wants nato missiles out of eastern europe and wants a commitment that ukraine and other countries surrounding russia will be permitted to join the nato alliance so prudent things by believe in you may be able to get something. the president has promised severe sanctions. should russia invade ukraine. secretary of state antony blinken renewed that warning last week there would be massive consequences. that's the language is massive consequences. russia, but republicans don't think the president has been tough enough on putin. this is texas senator ted cruz on the senate floor earlier this month. >> if we see russian tanks in the streets of it will be because joe biden surrendered to putin. >> today's phone calls. the second time the 2 men have spoken this month reporting in washington rashad hudson. back to you. >> coming up, the 4 people who died in that plane crash near san diego have been identified. now the victim's family and friends are remembering their lives. also the rose parade returns on new year's day. you can watch it live. this saturda

john herbst, the senior director of the atlantic cancels erasure center, appreciate it. on the 7th round of talks to revive the 2015 around nuclear deal has ended in vienna. they use coordinator says they've established good relationships with new delegates from tehran and a great upon some of a runs k demands. let's go live now to dosage. barry who's been covering developments in vienna. hello. they don't say you've spoken to a runs chief negotiator. what did he have to say? well, as the chief negotiator alley buggery, connie was very optimistic about what's taking place here over the past week. he said that at the last few days been very, very difficult, but they've managed to get what they wanted. meaning that the 2 proposals, the iranian team put forth at the beginning of this round on november 29th, have finally been accepted by all other sites. and he also said that the most important thing that they've achieved so far is that they've managed to be able to come to some kind of terms with the americans about sanctions relief. that was, of course, one of the mean sti

we can now speak to john herbst, former us ambassador to ukraine and senior director of the eurasia centers. what do you make of this video call? i think the key is not the video conference, the policy on the part of the united states. washington has handled skilfully, on balance, moscow is large literary build—up on the ukrainian border is, it�*s been warning about the danger of a possible russian invasion for weeks, of a possible russian invasion forweeks, it of a possible russian invasion for weeks, it has worked out a policy of strong response, in terms of economic sanctions, and increased military aid, as well as bolstering the nato presence in the east if moscow does invade. it has worked with the allies to make sure that this is a joint us allied response and all of these things give vladimir putin a reason to decide not to invade. you say there�*s been a strong response from washington but there�*s about 90,000 russian troops on the border, this did not happen overnight. why is it only now that the two leaders are discussing this? i only now that the two leaders are discussing this

. >>> in the meantime, joining me is former ambassador to ukraine, john herbst.in, ambassador. thanks for being here. how serious do you think this moment is in terms of russia's military moves and the posture we're hearing from the secretary of state blinken? >> moscow has positioned itself, having 100,000 troops on ukraine's borders in various places, to launch a major invasion of ukraine. they're positioning this way because their covert secret war, not so secret, has failed. they want to have something else to push ukraine away from the west. so the possibility of russia striking large is there. i don't think, however, it will happen. i think it's bluff. in part i think it's bluff because there was reaction by the biden administration very strong. blinken has more than earned his pay in the past couple weekss i sending a clear message to putin if they strike, there will be very real economic sanctions and military support for weapons for the ukraine. the fact the u.s. has taken such a strong position and coordinated that position with our european allies and

john herbst was ambassador to ukraine in the administration of george w bush.says it goes beyond sanctions as well. and he thinks ultimately the russian leader will blink you know, in the stands. >> that there will be a serious cause if he sends 10's of thousands of his conventional forces into ukraine. to me, that means chance of going it will not make logical. >> or well, you know. >> 5.10%, tax 15. >> while not 0. it creates an opportunity for president biden to be forceful with the leader over a situation where biden hold significant support in the region. >> but we're going to do that in coordination with our european partners with congress. those consultations have been ongoing and we just want to be prepared. prepared to for the possibility that putin will give an ultimatum which the president says would not face it. >> on tuesday. we should know more about where those lines will be drawn. michael shure news nation. >> new at 9 tonight. at least one person is dead, 41 others hospitalized after the eruption of indonesia's mount sera move the eruption dama

ambassador to ukraine john herbst from 2003 and 2006 and ow certains s now certerves as senior.nt biden told putin if the buildup continues, we're going time po going to impose new sanctions. a kremlin official says what john just reported, any new sanctions would be a colossal mistake. d do you read that response from russia as putin being concerned about what the u.s. could do to it with further sanctions and economically? >> putin is huge ly concerned about it. that's what that statement represents. the russian threat this will rupture relations between russia and united states means far less to us than it does to putin. >> so when you talk about breakthroughs, the call yesterday did not per se accomplish any major breaks through. but it is telling in the way that you just laid it out. you said something interesting, you said it is time for washington to cut the happy talk. what does the u.s. need to do as diplomats head into those talks on january 10th? >> biden has done a solid job with the russian relationship. it could be better. he's been weak on cyber, i mentioned in th

ambassador to ukraine, john herbst says who wants nato missiles out of eastern europe and wants a commitmentd other countries surrounding russia will be permitted to join the nato alliance so prudent things by believe in you may be able to get something. the president has promised severe sanctions. should russia invade ukraine. secretary of state antony blinken renewed that warning last week there would be massive consequences. that's the language is massive consequences. russia, but republicans don't think the president has been tough enough on putin. this is texas senator ted cruz on the senate floor earlier this month. >> if we see russian tanks in the streets of it will be because joe biden surrender to putin. >> and to show the seriousness of the situation. this is the second time this month that the 2 presidents have spoken reporting in washington rashad hudson. back to were shot. could you describe a little bit more. what these potential sanctions could look like. >> yes. so the sanctions would mostly come in the form of economic sanctions. however, republican lawmakers are urging the

ambassador to ukraine, john herbst says who wants nato missiles out of eastern europe and wants a commitment that ukraine and other countries surrounding russia will be permitted to join the nato alliance so prudent things by believe in you may be able to get something. the president has promised severe sanctions. should russia invade ukraine. secretary of state antony blinken renewed that warning last week there would be massive consequences. that's the language is massive consequences. russia, but republicans don't think the president has been tough enough on putin. this is texas senator ted cruz on the senate floor earlier this month. >> if we see russian tanks in the streets of it will be because joe biden surrendered to putin and to show the seriousness of the situation. this is the second time this month that the 2 presidents have spoken reporting in washington rashad hudson, back to you. >> the conviction of british socialite ghislane maxwell for trafficking. young girls has now focused attention again on her former friend prince andrew andrew is being sued by a this woman who claims

john herbst, former ambassador to ukraine in the second bush administration supports an aggressive diplomaticdministration toward putin. moscow had us all about has on various other it's not to invade ukraine nazis annexed incredible territory and they ignored the white house ecoing the sentiment friday. i think it's important to remember where the provocative action is coming from at this point in time. it's not the united states tonight. great preparation. the white house says could include sanctions, of course, economic sanctions. >> all right. but we're going to do that in coordination with our european partners with congress. those consultations have been prthe right way to deal to be with putin. putin a risk taker does not take stupid risks and while he may also posted sanctions don't hurt him. >> they certainly doing those. that was michael shure reporting for us tonight. today. earlier today, president biden vowed to make it, quote. >> very, very difficult for russia to take military action in ukraine. >> coming up in sports. the warriors looking for against the phoenix suns kylen mil