so, why john hersey. he was not born and bred as a ba new yorker. he came from the organization, but what makes him trust that he could get this story? >> he couldn't have been less from -- he was writing for times magazine and they hated each other, like voluptuous leg, publicly hated each other. reporting for the times in 1939, he was grooming him to be [inaudible] >> sorry to interrupt, but he had a very timely vibe. of that type. [inaudible] >> he was also from -- when you read the dispatch is that he wrote, they are a far cry from what he was writing before for the new yorker later on. >> as somebody who cares only about literary style, i think that's a hugely important question. >> you run with it. >> he had written one hugely significant piece, in historical terms, for the new yorker for that in the pacific, right? >> that's how hersey did come to the new yorker. he actually breaks up with louis because he is far too chauvinistic, patriotically chauvinistic for him and he says thanks but no thanks. he is a freelancer in 1945, but 1944 he had

but why john hersey? hirsi was not born and bred as "the new yorker." he came from -- what made sean trust that hersey could get this story? >> hirsi was writing for "time" magazine and henry louis was the head of new yorker hated each other. they voluptuously hysterically hated each other. hirsi had been reporting for time in 1939 and loose was grooming him to be the heir apparent to the times inc.. >> i don't mean to interrupt but he was of that type. he was not like a.j. liebling. he was an elegant figure. >> he was also from yale and also when you read what hersey wrote they are a far cry from what he was writing for "the new yorker" later on. >> as somebody who cares only about literary style i think that's a hugely important point and i want to hold it for a moment. but he had written one hugely significant piece. in historical terms in a credible piece for "the new yorker" for that, right? >> that's our hirsi did come to "the new yorker." he breaks up with luce because he thinks he's far too chauvinistic for him and he said thanks but no thanks in