john hiatt -- jonathan hiatt is the executive director of the afl-cio, so there is nobody who is more aware of labor law issues. the supreme court has had quite a lot to say, for better or worse, about the state of labor laws in the united states. pamela karlan, who everybody knows and is indebted to for her wit and wisdom. she is a professor at stanford, where she helps direct the supreme court clinic and is a very astute and wonderful observer of the u.s. supreme court. i thought i would start by having us talk about a case that has been kind of iconic for what it tells us about the court's approach to statutory interpretations in terms of the press disconnect between congressional intent and the way the court reads statutes. i should just say, as part of framing our discussion here, it is an excellent time to sort of do two things -- share two themes that will run throughout our conversation. we will take the temperature of the roberts court. it is undergoing change, obviously, but we have seen enough to draw some conclusions in our various areas. the other thing -- theme that his

john hiatt -- jonathan hiatt is the executive director of the afl-cio, so there is nobody who is more aware of labor law issues. the supreme court has had quite a lot to say, for better or worse, about the state of labor laws in the united states. pamela karlan, who everybody knows and is indebted to for her wit and wisdom. she is a professor at stanford, where she helps direct the supreme court clinic and is a very astute and wonderful observer of the u.s. supreme court. i thought i would start by having us talk about a case that has been kind of iconic for what it tells us about the court's approach to statutory interpretations in terms of the press disconnect between congressional intent and the way the court reads statutes. i should just say, as part of framing ouriscussion here, it is an excellent time to sort of do two things -- share two themes that will run throughout our conversation. we will take the temperature of the roberts court. it is undergoing change, obviously, but we have seen enough to draw some conclusions in our various areas. the other thing -- theme that his pa