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bring in a democratic senator, john hickenlooper from colorado.ator, when you were last seen on our show, you were in the back seat of a car trying to do an interview with your senate partner, michael bennet. nice to have you outside the back seat. >> looking forward to doing more car pool karaoke. >> there you go. look, i am intrigued about you the former governor, not you, the current senator. as a former executive how frustrating is it to work on a bill and to be prioritizing something today that you know can't get passed and frankly it looks like this is a classic cart before the horse, sort of leg work isn't done yet, yet you guys are doing it on a vote. i think i understand why progressive activists are frustrated, maybe they don't know the ins and outside of the legislative deal making, but this thing never had a chance. now they're feeling as if the rug was pulled out from under them. has this been handled well? >> i think what's frustrating is the fact that we can't even debate it. what we're voting on today is not trying to pass sb1, wha

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the spectrum runs through john hickenlooper all the way through lindsey graham. >> we want to work with our republican colleagues on infrastructure where we have common ground. democrats believe that we have other priorities that the senate must consider above and beyond a bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> some republicans are jumping in with concerns about some of the spending. let's look specifically.110 billion in roads. $66 billion in railways. $15 billion in electric vehicles, which includes charging stations and electric buses. in the house of representatives, things are touch and go meaning that house democrats effectively have zero margin to play around with. congressman john yarmouth from kentucky said all democrats individually have an ability to sabotage an entire bill. that's how the situation is right now. i asked nancy pelosi this morning about that comment that he made. listen here. >> we're the democratic party. we're not a lock step rubber stamp. who would like to be a volatile party like that. you can cross the aisle and do that. >> democratic leaders like nancy pelos

as an example, john hickenlooper, a former governor, sort of a moderate, centrist kinds of guy a deal maker, was running against andrew romanoff, our speaker, who is the darling of the left. and based on what we saw from sort of party kinds of things, andrew was going to clean his clock. and john ended up clobbering him because the unaffiliated voters in this instance, and moderate democrats just said, no, this is our guy. so that did moderate, kind of, the extremes in that instance. and i was opposed to us going to this thing. and i was wrong. you know? >> i think we have got a couple more questions around incentives before we shift gears. i have one on incentives and i know vice chair timmons does, too. one example of where the incentives have broken down is on the floor. i came out of a state legislature wherever bill was taken up under an open rule. in eight years in the legislature i can count maybe five or six times where people used that to make political hay, but by and large the incentive was or at least the norm was, don't be a jerk. in part because you don't know when you a

the spectrum runs from lindsey graham to john hickenlooper in colorado. democratic leadership are cautioning members to avoid name calling when it comes to kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. you need those votes and why they're saying tamper down the rhetoric. we may need them when they have such little margin. >> bill: nice to see you david spunt watching the cats being herded on the hill. >> dana: the folly of trying to pressure joe manchin. they brought in al sharpton and yesterday he issued a statement actually none of that worked. so to david spunt's point wow, your progressive policies might not be as popular as you think they are. sinema has not budged. >> dana: who is hiding behind both of them? senator mark kelly from arizona is up in 2022 as well. chicago mayor lori light foot calling for federal help as murders skyrocket. >> a baker winning a supreme court battle after refusing to make a same sex wedding cake is back in the headlines. he is here this morning to talk about the latest legal challenge that some are calling religious persecution plain

john lewis voting rights act. senator joe manchin has made it clear, he's not willing to get rid of the filibuster to make that happen. senator hickenlooperthe last hour, he thinks democrats need to give this more time. does your party need to get behind a more modest measure? is it time to start compromising? what do you think? >> well, i think, democrats, in d.c., need to watch what's happening. understand that this is a wakeup call from texas, from georgia, from florida. those senators, especially senator sinema, senator manchin, ought to recognize what's happening here. in statehouse, after statehouse, these republicans are trying to rig the election system, so that they have an unfair advantage. and so, many of those senators may have -- may become the victims, themselves, in years to come, elections to come, of these very changes that republican legislatures are making. not only that. i mean, whether you're a republican or democrat, you're being negatively affected by these changes that are being made. it's getting harder to pass the ballot, harder to exercise your constitutional right. so, my hope is that we will be able to get the