has already come out about what happened in these black sides from the cia's inspector general, john hilgerson president obama declassified in 2009. we have an enormous amount of information on what happened there. it was clear from this report that people were using unauthorized techniques, techniques that were not approved, you know, they were doing mock executions. they were taking brushes, you know, and hard brushes across their skin. they were doing all sorts of common. >> that's what these black sites have in common with abu ghraib. i agree it was a bunch of yahoos who went rogue but it wasn't sanctioned by the general council's office of the pentagon. what we found in abu ghraib is the same thick we found in the same thing we found in poland and the same thing that the senate select schmidt on investigation is going to find in a cia black site in afghanistan that was closed down. the oversight, there was not proper oversight. >> that's the important things. >> is it intentional that there is not proper oversight? >> yeah. i think so. i mean what happened on the senate select committee o