our guest this week is senator john hoeven of north dakota. he is a member of the conference committee working out the differences on the surface transportation bill. over $100 billion is at stake, thousands of jobs. june 30 is the deadline for expiration. thank you for being with us. let me introduce our reporters. meredith shiner is a reporter at "roll call" print senate leadership. elana schor is the congressional reporter for "environment and energy daily." we will start with you. >> you are entering this conference. the white house has already threatened to veto the house bill that has the pipeline attached. privately, both sides of the debate say east and xl must be a great bargaining chip for you to press the issue to give it up in exchange for something. that is politics. no one likes that messy part of it. is there anything you can discuss as a possible trade for keystone in the talks? >> i think we will passkeys down as part of the highway bill. -- i think we will pass keystone as part of the highway bill. support has grown. the peop

. -- senar john hoeven. >> i had my ambition to walk with john smith and pocahontas. this makes a rectangular space that would be the chancel. incahontas mary's john rolfe this church in 1614. i guarantee you i am standing exactly a little deeper than she was, but this is where pocahontas stood when she got married. >> tour the jamestown colony dig. take a tour starting at 1:30 p.m. eastern saturday. joint in the conversation answering your questions, live saturday, 2:30 p.m. eastern, part of american history tv this weekend on c-span3. >> these men go through things and have scars that no one can understand and accept each other. >> the first thing that started us was the relationship when harry truman and herbert hoover, who were such different men and who ended up forming this alliance that neither of them would have anticipated and ended up being enormously productive and form the foundation of what would become a deep friendship. the letters between them later in their lives about how important they have become to one another are extraordinary. >> it may be the m