so to learn more about de-growth, you can call john holdren, the president's science adviser, or maybe greenpeace. but robert points out -- or offers, rather, an alternative vision for america's future. again, a positive one in which we do more with less, and we grow the pie rather than ration it. so as i was reading the book, i said, well, he really speaks so answer -- seeks to answer two questions; why and how do we keep this going? rather than saying, well, it's going to end soon and throwing hands up in alarm. so he wants to see the good times continue to roll. now, while the substance of robert's talk, i'm sure, will focus on answering these two questions -- why and how do we continue this -- i think he offers a pretty simple answer, that we continue to innovate by making things smaller, faster, lighter, denser and cheaper. i hope that was in the right order. you have talking heads on tv who say, well, we'll just solve our way out of a problem with new technology. it's more nuanced than that. it's in some ways a globe-trotting showcase of the actual innovations, the real people, t