john holzman. potentially there are. because, off haul as it is being performed in many circumstances these days-and there's a dispute whether they're independent contractors or not, but by owner operators, people report to innovative contractors is done by the load. it is not paid hourly and is done through brokers. if, at some point, this work ends up being done by employees of employers in again, to be clear, because we've had many discussions about teamsters whether that's at the the case now, but if it is, it's hourly and one of the big questions that hides behind all of this is there's been significant change in prevailing wage law with respect to the application of prevailing wage to owner operator off haul truckers. it was decision a few years ago where an steward can tell you more about it, in which the state in essence said pavilion wage should apply to off haul trucking regardless of whether it's semi-independent contractors. the difficulty is eir has not established a rate for people who own their own legs be