subcommittee last held a hearing on this topic in 2007, we heard from the late distinguished john hope franklin. from the book slavery's to freedom. john hope franklin was also a survivor of the tolls the massacre. he testified of the culture of silence among the white community in the years following. to race from historical memory and also the importance of dealing honestly with historical truth. with john hope franklin a historian of imminent success and acclamation is true today you must deal with historical truth. we must feed his admonition to keep the memory alive and deal honestly with the truth and reparations from the century of suffering and the descendents have endured. i look forward to hearing testimony today and thank them for being with us today. i now yield time to the ranking member of louisiana for his statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. especially our witnesses. it took some effort for you to be here and we appreciate it. particularly this panel, the first panel to you were survivors of the greenwood massacre. i will briefly repeat the history of that again because mr. cha

came to work for the museum, as we began to talk about the stories that we needed to tell, john hope franklin who is himself and oklahoman and tulsan. the preeminent american historian who is the son of buck kolbert franklin sat me down and talked about the importance of telling this story in our museum through the use of artifacts when we could find them, and the immense need of not just putting this story in the public's hands in terms of school curriculum, but the way in which these other incredibly valuable learning spaces, museums, and educational spaces where people of all backgrounds can come together needed to learn this story, and that is really where my true education began. and then you meet people like mary as well. tracy: when did you first hear about this? mary: we had family reunions every two years and we talked about the strength of the family in oklahoma and indian territory but we did not talk about the massacre. it was not until the 1980's or 1990's when the story came forward about rosewood, and that is when i started to learn about the tulsa massacre. the other thing is

john. hope franklin. and finally, we've talked a little bit about the tulsa tribune that daily afternoon newspaper. three days after the mask on june 4th 19 one the tribune published an editorial about the possible rebuilding it was called it must not be again. and the uneducated of people who people who are not knowledgeable about this history might think that the tribune was publishing an article condemning the violence against the african-american community essentially saying that sort of violence and chaos should not be allowed in tulsa again, that's not what the editorial was. it referred to the black community and really derogatory terms and called it a cesspool and said it must not be again and the black community should not be rebuilt should not be resurrected. that's the kind of hostility open and obvious hostility faced by the black community here in tulsa in 1921. even post massacre the fact that they were able to found and rebuild their community is yet another testament to the abdominal human

and i was hoping like minds prevail so the john hope franklin that has passed on that we had the privilege of knowing. he died seeking justice. my great-great-grandfather, he wasn't also. my great-grandmother, she was in tulsa. my grandfather and my aunt all in tulsa all survivors in the 1921 raise massacre. they went to the district court house and in 1921 the statute of limitations had not expired. not saying that we had some 14 properties 123 north greenwood. my great-grandmother talked about her silverware and the linen and her feather mattresses in the piano destroyed. . . . . you can't saf limitations ran out but what we didn't have in supply was just then also think about my grandfather who was in school at the time and he was a senior just like anybody else who was privileged to get that far and he was decorating a hotel at the time and preparing for graduation exercises and all we heard is that the trouble is coming. how would they have known trouble was coming in the worst racist terrorist attack on american soil in history. how would they have known that the fear and the hotels

john hope franklin, one of america's greatest historians, tulsa's proud son, whose father was a greenwood survivor, said, and i quote, "whatever you do, it must be done with the spirit of goodwill, mutual respect, and even love. how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forebears and teach the future with confidence and with hope? on this sacred and solemn day, may we find that distinctly rained with spirit that defines the american spirit, the spirit that gives me so much confidence and hope for the future, that helps us see face to face the spirit that helps us know fully who we are and who we can be as a people and as a nation. i have never been more optimistic about the future than i am today. i mean that. the reason is because of this new generation of young people. they are the best educated. they are the least prejudiced. they are the most open generation in american history. and although i have no scientific faces for what i'm about to say, but those of you who are over 50, how often did you ever see advertisements on television with black and white? not a joke. -- i

came to work for the museum, as we began to talk about the stories that we needed to tell, john hope franklinho is himself and oklahoman and tulsan. the preeminent american historian who is the son of buck kolbert franklin sat me down and talked about the importance of telling this story in our museum through the use of artifacts when we could find them, and the immense need of not just putting this story in the public's hands in terms of school curriculum, but the way in which these other incredibly valuable learning spaces, museums, and educational spaces where people of all backgrounds can come together needed to learn this story, and that is really where my true education began. and then you meet people like mary as well. tracy: when did you first hear about this? mary: we had family reunions every two years and we talked about the strength of the family in oklahoma and indian territory but we did not talk about the massacre. it was not until the 1980's or 1990's when the story came forward about rosewood, and that is when i started to learn about the tulsa massacre. the other thing is th

john hope franklin, one of america's greatest historians, tulsa's proud son whose father was a greenwoodurvivor said, "whatever you do, it must be done in the spirit of goodwill, mutual respect, and even love. how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forebears and face the future with confidence and hope? on this sacred and solemn day, may we find that distinctly greenwood spirit that defines the american spirit, a spirit that gives me so much confidence and hope for the future, that helps us see face-to-face a spirit, that helps us know fully who we are and who we can be as a people and as a nation. i have never been more optimistic about the future that i am today. i mean that. the reason is, because of this generation of young people. they are the best educated. they are the least prejudiced. they are the most open generation in american history. and, although i have no scientific basis for what i am about to say, but those of you who are over 50, how often did you ever see advertisements on television with black-and-white couples? not a joke. i challenge you. find today

john hope franklin. when america's greatest historians tulsa's proud son father was a green would survivor said night quote. whatever you do. it must be done in the spirit of good will and respect and even love. how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forbearers and face the future? come with confidence and with hope on this sacred and solemn day may we find that distinctly greenwood spirit that defines the american spirit. the spirit that gives me so much confidence and hope for the future. it helps us see face to face a spirit. it helps us know fully who we are. and who we can be? as a people and as a nation. i've never been more optimistic about the future than i am today. i mean that the reason is because of this new generation of young people through the best educated though the least prejudice. the most open generation in american history and although i have no scientific basis from about to say but those of you who are over 50. how often did you ever see? how often did you ever see

john hope franklin, one of america's greatest historians, tulsa's proud son whose father was a greenwoodvivor said and i quote "whatever you do, it must be done in the spirit of good will and mutual respect and even love. how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forbearers and face the future with confidence and hope?" on this sacred and solemn day, may we find that distinctly greenwood spirit that defines the american spirit, the spirit that gives me so much confidence and hope for the future. helps us see face to face the spirit, helps us knee fully who we are and who we can be. that's the people as a nation. i've never been more optimistic about the future than i am today. i mean that. the reason is because of this new generation of young people, they're the best educated, this least prejudiced, the most open generation in american history. although i have no scientific basis for what i'm about to say, but those of you over 50, how often did you ever see -- how often did you see advertisements with black and white couples? not a joke. i challenge you, find today when you

committee, his pride and joys are the e w was memorial which she had a pardon as well as doctor john hope franklin boulevard also courtesy of ross throughout his adult life learning about and educating others on the tulsa race massacre has been a top priority, but it wasn't until recently that he discovered his direct eye. >> only found about being send it and and friends of the family just recently maybe. but the last 5 years my great-grandfather isaac said i t t. >> had a zoom despite used to sit where the 2.44 freeway crosses green. what it was last in the massacre in 1921 he was not able to rebuild. >> it was a lot of problems. and that meant that the right because the city did not want a black hole to rebuild these grounds in the 90's. doctor phoebe stubblefield was invited to be a scientific consultant on the tulsa race, riot commission report. >> she wasn't from tulsa but had relatives that lived there. she never could have known the experience would change her life and opened her eyes to her ancestry mentioned it to my doing this and they said, yeah, roster ups. >> you know, like a and my

john hope franklin, one of america's greatest historians, tulsa's proud son, whose father was a greenwoode, whatever you do, it must be done in the spirit of goodwill and mutual respect and even love. how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our fore bearers and face the future with confidence and with hope? on this sacred and solemn day, may we find that distinctly greenwood spirit that defines the american spirit. the spirit that gives me so much confidence and hope for the future. it helps us see face-to-face a spirit. it helps us know fully who we are and who we can be as a people and as a nation. i've never been more optimistic about the future than i am today. i mean that. the reason is, because of the new generation of young people. they're the best educated, they're the least prejudiced, the most open generation in american history. and although i have no scientific basis for what i'm about to say, those of you who are over 50, how often did you ever see -- how often did you ever see advertisements on television with black and white couples? not a joke. i challenge you,

john hope franklin, one of america's greatest historians, tulsa's proud son whose father was a greenwoodver you do, it must be done in the spirit of good will and mutual respect and even love, how else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forebarriers and face the future with confidence and with hope on this ache on this sacred day may we find that spirit that gives so much confidence and hope for the future and help to see face-to-face a spirit to help us know fully who we are, and who we can be as a people, and as a nation i've never been more opt i ammist i've never been more optimistic about the fight urijah than today. about the future than today. the reason is because of the new generation of young people they're the best educated, the least prejudice, most open generation in american history although i have no scientific basis for what i'm about to say, but those of you over 50, how often did you ever see advertisements on television with black and white couples not a joke i challenge you, find today when you turn on the stations, sit on one station for two hours, and i d

you had john hope franklin on the air. i talked to him. he was four years old.is father was a lawyer. he went to selma. a few days later, his mother, and himself, and other siblings were supposed to go to tulsa and start a new life. he never saw his father again for a whole year. his father survived, you know? they went and they lived and you had him on c-span. i interviewed him what about, 10, 15 years ago? host: you say it is getting worse, worse since 1921? what do you say to the callers -- you bring up the election of barack obama, but we elected a black president in this country. they will point to kamala harris in this country and the civil rights movement. why do you say none of that is making it better this country? caller: because it did not make it better! look, people are being killed! they are making up laws to keep us from voting, everything. everything in this country has been against black people. white people do not think black people are human. that is why they treat us this. host: you feel that way, you feel that way about all white people in t