would jeopardize democrats tonight says in two thousand and eighteen and beyond political analyst john howard jar is unimpressed by the way the dream as you see it was being used to score political points politics has become very cynical in the us and you know i think that. it's somewhat of a dirty game you know that the left looks at immigration from a very cynical perspective. they have very wealthy interests that rely on a constant flow of cheap labor and also they need the votes and they're against any of the reforms that president trump and the republicans have been pressing for. america's dreamers debate might have some resonance in scotland where the local parliament was looking into the possibility of granting the right to vote to anyone granted asylum or a residency that would include a right to participate in local and scottish parliamentary elections the scottish minister of a parliamentary business claim that it's only fair that those who have the right to live there should also have the right to vote and we debate the issue with james dorgan from the scottish national party and david