that was john humphrys on the today programme.. that was john humphrys on the today programme. one of the controversies is that two thirds of the top earners are male. let's talk about that apparent gender inequality with the leader of the women's equality party and former journalist, sophie walker. what do you think of this list? do you think it shows gender inequality and if so, what should be done about it? it shows gender inequality and if so, what should be done about mm clearly shows gender inequality. the average male stars are paid for times as much as the top female stars. also there are discrepancies with ethnic minority payment. i think what this report does is lower pa rt think what this report does is lower part of the argument that women can be just as good if they try harder. they are constantly held back by ideas of what talent is. that old arguments, wejust ideas of what talent is. that old arguments, we just want the best person for thejob. it's arguments, we just want the best person for the job. it's always goi

john humphrys that's more than £600,000 a year. from competitors?n humphrys that's more than £600,000 a yeahm is highly unlikely that i would go somewhere else? it is the bestjob there is. it keeps coming back to this. why are we paying people who like working on the bbc and can't imagine leaving paying them so much money? you should only get a lot of money? you should only get a lot of money if you dislike the job you are doing. what is it... what is most special unique talent? i do what i do. i ask people questions that i think, i hope the public wants a nswered think, i hope the public wants answered and i think i do that reasonably competently. gender has emerged as perhaps the most important issue to come out of this list. two thirds of the names on the list. two thirds of the names on the list are of men. the problem is you cannot look at gender without looking at age. under 50 the rat largely even numbers but if you look at the over 50s, there are 45 when on the list and just 11 women. four times as many men over 50 earning more than 450,000

john humphrys and jeremy vine, the two leading news presenters on the list, earning over £600,000 and0 respectively. they were followed by the likes of huw edwards, on more than £550,000, andrew marr, earning over £400,000, fiona bruce, with more than £350,000, and laura kuenssberg on over £200,000, who was in the same range as andrew neil, as wasjon sopel. many bbc outlets indulged in what some viewers felt was washing their dirty linen in public, including breakfast, with a surreally self—referential paper review presented awkwardly by on—the—list naga munchetty and not on the list charlie stayt. it's not every day the bbc brea kfast sofa ma kes the front page of the sun, but there we go. the figures are out. and many of the papers, as naga said, are looking at some of the detail and some of the discrepancies highlighted. the daily mail say mutiny — bitter recriminations of the politically correct bbc as this gulf between men and women's pay is revealed. so that's us on newswatch broadcast during breakfast, showing a clip of breakfast, featuring a newspaper front page about breakfas

and john humphrys from the today programme and mastermind gets almost £650,000, and today he was ther, absolutely nothing that justifies that huge amount of money. if you compare me with lots of other people who do visible... if a doctor saves a child's life, or if a nurse comforts a dying person. however, we operate in a market place. i think i provide a fairly useful service. somebody has to do the job of trying to hold power to account. what's also notable are the names that are missing. no david dimbleby. no david attenborough, no mary berry. anyone paid through an independent production company or the bbc‘s commercial arm isn't on the list, so graham norton's earnings from his production company are probably not included. but it is still a list of 96 names earning more than £150,000. we are constantly working at ensuring that we get the balance right between our public, who want to have great shows presented by stars and great presenters, and they also wanting to know that their money, and it's their money, public money, is being spent properly. that's always a balance, and over

john humphrys and jeremy vine there, who were the two leading news presenters on the list, earning over,000 and £700 , 000 respectively. they were followed by the likes of huw edwards on more than £550,000. andrew marr earning over £400,000. fiona bruce with more than £350,000 and laura kuenssberg with over £200,000, who was in same range as andrew neil, as wasjon soppel. many bbc outlets indulged in what some viewers felt was washing their dirty linen in public. including breakfast, with this really surreal paper review, presented awkwardly by on—the—list naga munchetty and not—on—the—list charlie stayt. not every day we make the front page of the sun, but there you go. the figures are out there. many of the papers looking at some of the detail and some of the detail and some of the detail and some of the discrepancies highlighted. the daily mail saying mutiny. bitter recrimination at the politically correct bbc as this gulf between men and women is revealed. so that's us, newswatch, broadcast during breakfast, showing a clip of breakfast, featuring a newspaper headline about breakfast

it is fair to say, let me pick some names, if you have john humphrys or hugh edwards, that sort of qualityence, and a long time in the job, different parts of what you would call journalism, i can see why that by, i don't know what he is paid, i will find out tomorrow. but i can see why he is going to be paid a lot more thana he is going to be paid a lot more than a female, qualityjournalist doing thisjob, but frankly, hasn't been around as long. i understand that. it is a shame he is a bloke because it defeats the argument, but thatis because it defeats the argument, but that is a different argument. because it defeats the argument, but that is a different argumentm gives rise to another argument, because a female presenter of the vintage ofjohn humphrys, you won't find her presenting the today programme. the real test will be, two things, one is to people on the sofa in the morning, breakfast television, both of the same vintage and experience. if we find out tomorrow that the bloke is earning more than the woman, that is dreadful. the second is, i more than the woman, that is dreadful.

it is fair to say, let me pick some names, if you have john humphrys or hugh edwards, that sort of qualityof what you would call journalism, i can see why that by, i don't know what he is paid, i will find out tomorrow. but i can see why he is going to be paid a lot more thana

for instance, john humphrys and jeremy vine both present tv quiz shows which contribute to their wageates. but that cuts no ice with david goodchild who told us... well, the bbc direct general, lord hall, responded to all these points in an interview he gave on wednesday. he said the gender pay gap was lower on the bbc than it was nationally, and pledged equal pay on the air between men and women by 2020. he pointed to the increased competition to the bbc for presenters, not just domestically, but from companies, such as apple and amazon, and he said he'd continue efforts to reduce the on—air wage bill. we are constantly working at ensuring that we get the balance right between our public, who want to have great shows presented by stars and great presenters, and them also wanting to know that their money — and it's their money, public money — is being spent properly and that is always a balance. mark damazer has worked at the bbc for many years, including as deputy director of bbc news, and he was later a bbc trustee. he is now master at saint peters college oxford. welcome to newswat

it'll be interesting to see on the today programme, sarah montague, john humphrys, what do they get paidests. just a reminder we take a look at tomorrows front pages every evening at 1040 here on bbc news. hello. yesterday was cloudy and damp for many. think brightening up from the north today, good spells of sunshine to be had here but that's not. we come on the south that uk we have some thick cloud, bringing with it outbreaks of light and patchy rain. we see the satellite sequence here. worsley food tastes central —— roughly that sweeps through the south with the odd spot of rain in wimbledon. behind it, by the skies and sunshine, a breeze in north scotland and mostly dry in the afternoon. 19 degrees in aberdeen, similar temperatures in belfast. 19—21d in northern england and more on the way of sunshine coming through in the north of wales. the main area of cloud further south. the rain by the stage light and patchy but the risk of rain in the wimbledon area. later on today, and a lot of cloud generally. it will be dry much of the time but a bit of rain later on. the wind is quite lig

john humphrys, who presents the today programme and mastermind, is paid over £600,000.s made public. what do i do? on paper, absolutely nothing that justifies that huge amount of money, if you compare me with lots of other people who do visibly... a doctor saves a child's life, or a nurse comforts a dying person. would you do the job for less money? yes, of course i would. and i have done it... iam... i know this sounds rather curious given the amount of money you've just read out, but i... i am doing it for less money. how much less would you do this job for? i've taken a couple of sizeable... a very sizeable pay cut just recently. with younger audiences flocking online, the bbc needs to persuade a new generation to pay the licence fee. it can only do that if, on diversity class and gender, it reflects modern britain. but on today's evidence, it still falling short. amol rajan, bbc news. after the release of the pay figures, theresa may criticised the bbc, for paying women less than men for doing the same job, and she insisted the corporation must continue publishing i

people will see how muchjeremy vine and john humphrys get praise, and will think i never will make thisegotiation with these quys the bbc in negotiation with these guys to take their money down and make sure they are not being overpaid? we are constantly working at ensuring that we get the balance right between our public, who want to have great shows presented by stars and great presenters, and then also wanting to know that their money, and it is their money, public money, and it is their money, public money, is being spent properly and thatis money, is being spent properly and that is always a balance. and over the last, to three years, yes, some key presenters and others have taken pay cuts. we keep working on this and making sure we get the best value for money and that is also why are the last year, year—on—year, the amount of money that we are spending in total on talent has gone down on 10%. 25% overfour years. we know we have to keep ensuring that the public, who pays rows, to whom the sums seem public, who pays rows, to whom the sums seem enormous, public, who pays rows, to wh

is john humphrys that's hisjudgment. we don't know yet.s, is he worth getting paid ten times that of classroom teacher? i don't think so. i think we're paying people far too much and it will be interesting to see exactly how much people are getting paid. i'd like to interview john humphrys for example and ask him if he canjustify getting hundreds of thousands of pounds forjust coming on and asking questions, prepared for by researchers all the work being done by someone else? i don't think so. i think it's entirely out of proportion. there you have precisely the dangerfor the proportion. there you have precisely the danger for the bbc of these salaries being published where you have politicians who need to be held to account, notjust by the bbc, but by journalists across—the—board, to account, notjust by the bbc, but byjournalists across—the—board, who will be complaining about the kinds of salaries that their interviews are earning and it puts the bbc at a huge disadvantage because there is no transparency in itn, we won't see the salarie

and john humphrys from the today programme and mastermind gets almost £650,000, and today he was theothing that justifies that huge amount of money. if you compare me with lots of other people who do visible... if a doctor saves a child's life, or if a nurse comforts a dying person. however, we operate in a market place. i think i provide a fairly useful service. somebody has to do the job of trying to hold power to account. what's also notable are the names that are missing. no david dimbleby. no david attenborough, no mary berry. anyone paid through an independent production company or the bbc‘s commercial arm isn't on the list, so graham norton's earnings from his production company are probably not included. but it is still a list of 96 names earning more than £150,000. we are constantly working at ensuring that we get the balance right between our public, who want to have great shows presented by stars and great presenters, and they also wanting to know that their money, and it's their money, public money, is being spent properly. that's always a balance, and over the last two o