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bring up john kasich, everywhere i would go in the country, people would tell me everyone likes john huntsman, was a good fiscal candidate and he never got past low numbers in the polls. but again, he is a governor, and he is a relative moderate, and not making a lot -- not getting a lot of traction. >> he has polled second in too fairly reliable polls. in lamb ham, recently, so again, if these are two separate elections he might be right where he needs to be and that may be second or third, and that's something he could never come close to doing. >> yeah. all right, we will come back and have more to talk about this. >> all right, thank you, tonight's debate may be in south carolina but the candidates are also making voters in iowa and new hampshire. the first primary will be held there after week after the iowa caucus. of course it could be crucial, paul and political director and anchor for n.h. 1 t.v., he has interviewed most of the candidates, he is in manchester tonight, so paul, what are the voters in new hampshire care about when it comes to the republican party? the republican primar

>> the coveted boston globe endorsement, that elevates john kasich with john huntsman. republican voters don't want a boston globe approved candidate. i think it hurts more than it helps. the herald might help chris christie. it plays into new hampshire vote vote voters desire to have governors. >> i did a look through our brain room, and it turns out that chris christie has had, let's see two endorsements in new hampshire, john kasich has five from newspapers. hillary clinton has four. so, you know, it seems that kasich keeps picking up. does that mean momentum in any way? >> there is some evidence that kasich is starting to poll above the pack, you know, the second part of the pack in new hampshire. but the real question is does it matter. if donald trump comes out of iowa really strong and wins new hampshire, there's -- it's almost impossible at that point to stop him. and so i think as john roberts said, the real story is, does cruz or trump stumble in iowa, giving others a shot. if they don't, they're both in very strong positions the rest of the way. >> all right.

trump, and you're in the mid teens, as you seep, fwrrks are if u grrks tw and i think back to john huntsman four years ago meech came in sort of a close third i guess coup say. he was near 16, 17%. huntsman said i got my ticket to ride, i'm going to south caroli carolina. i know all these historical rules are made to be broken, especially in the year of donald trump but history says you have got to put a win on the board in one of those first two votes. you lose the media's attention, you lose the party's interest and the confident of your fen o and, steve, to think of the boat load of money that candidates and their sooup packs have been putting into places like new hampshire and the go who has youutthe least is way ahead. it's an amazing time, you are know? >> it's trump butch it crew. of the "s" word coming up a lot recently. socialism. is this exactly the kind of fight bern oo sanders right now? >> there's a little bit of a list opinion it's while hillary clinton herself, her campaign, has not yet been using the word socialism, it's clear that message has been set out to many of her sur

former utah governor john huntsman joins me now.ays been a proponent to china. is it a "house of cards"? >> well, i'm a proponent in china in the sense they reform. they opened their markets and engage in building standards that allow for fair play. that's what i'm in favor of and that's what they're having a hard time doing right now. they're trying to make a transition from an export model that has served them well for 30 years in which you can build a big reserve and draw in cheap labor and exports to the markets and that's an easy thing to do and done for decade. they're making it to a consumption model where they're going to have to be a whole lot better for their open markets and going to have great entrepreneurship thrive. and in a sense causing some of the wobbliness within the marketplace. they don't know how to govern the big stock exchanges. they don't know what regulatory regime to have this place. they have nuclear bombs being blown up. and crisis in terms of pricing. so right now they've got a whole lot of indicators t

ambassador china, presidential candidate john huntsman also cochair of the political group, activismood morning to you. >> hey, great to be with you. dagen: i'll put money down the president obama talks about infrastructure. he's mentioned it in every speech since he took the oath of office seven years ago. >> that may be the case. this is president obama's last year in the final year you worry about your legacy. i'm not sure much else forget that. it's totally overtaken by the seller relationship with congress and a wide-open presidential candidate. that is where the talks going to be. it will be interesting to see how it lays out his legacy. it is marked by executive order which changes the dynamic of how the presidency works vis-À-vis congress. i am going to be -- i am going to be listening with open ears for this speech. dagen: what else you think you could move on with executive orders because he's seen what he's doing with gun regulations. he tried to do with immigration and those are two of the big ones, but there are more. >> well, i hope whatever happens does not compute the

``jon huntsman tried that strategy ``in 2012 and finished in distant ``third place. ``in fact, a lot of people refer ``to john kasich as doing the full ``huntsman this year. ``fernando: struggling candidates ``will have just over two weeks to ``catch the front-runners before ``voters go to the polls for the ``nation' s first primary. `` ``>> coming up next, cracking code ``>> there has definitely been ``saying? `` `` `` ``mr. trump: they are bringing ``drugs. ``they are rapists. ``fernando: the crowded republican ``field has not shyed away from ``hot-button issues like ``immigration, income inequality ``and women' s rights. ``and some campaign ads could even ``be considered "dog-whistle" ``politics, fanning the flames of ``racial division. ``leah wright rigueur teaches ``about race and politics at ``harvard university. ``she joins me now on skype. `` ``fernando: there' s been a ``tremendous amount of controversy ``so far in the election. ``some would say that there' s dog ``whistling going on in terms of ``messaging that seeks to appeal ``to some sort of racial biases. ``do you agree with that general ``view

issues like kasich has to attract independent jon huntsman tried that strategy in 2012 and finished in distant third place. in fact, a lot of people refer to john kasich as doing the full huntsman this year. fernando: struggling candidates will have just over two weeks to catch the front-runners before voters go to the polls for the nation' s first primary. >> coming up next, cracking code words on the campaign trail. >> there has definitely been pannouncer: where do you line up with john kasich on the issues? take the kasich quiz! forced obamacare expansion in ohio. voted for massive defense cuts and defended the process that closed pease air force base, which cost thousands of local jobs. even had the worst rating on spending of any governor in the country - republican or democrat. john kasich - wrong on new hampshire issues. right to rise usa is responsible saying? mr. trump: they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapists. fernando: the crowded republican field has not shyed away from hot-button issues like immigration, income inequality and women' s rights. and some campaign ads could even be considered "dog-whistle" pol

jon huntsman tried that strategy in 2012 and finished in distant third place. in fact, a lot of people refer to john kasich as doing the full huntsman this year. fernando: struggling candidates will have just over two weeks to catch the front-runners before voters go to the polls for the nation' s first primary. >> coming up next, cracking code words on the campaign trail. saying? mr. trump: they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapists. fernando: the crowded republican field has not shyed away from hot-button issues like immigration, income inequality and women' s rights. be considered "dog-whistle" politics, fanning the flames of racial division. about race and politics at harvard university. she joins me now on skype. fernando: there' s been a tremendous amount of controversy so far in the election. some would say that there' s dog whistling going on in terms of messaging that seeks to appeal to some sort of racial biases. do you agree with that general view of the election so far? professor rigueur: absolutely. so there' s definitely been head nods, dog whistles, whatever yo

jon huntsman tried that strategy in 2012 and finished in distant third place. in fact, a lot of people refer to john kasich as doing the full huntsman this year. fernando: struggling candidates will have just over two weeks to catch the front-runners before voters go to the polls for the nation's first primary. >> coming up next, cracking code >> there has definitely been saying? mr. trump: they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapists. fernando: the crowded republican field has not shyed away from hot-button issues like immigration, income inequality and women's rights. and some campaign ads could even politics, fanning the flames of racial division. leah wright rigueur teaches about race and politics at harvard university. she joins me now on skype. fernando: there's been a tremenenus amount of controversy so far in the election. some would say that there's dog whistling going on in terms of messaging that seeks to appeal to some sort of racial biases. do you agree with that general view of the election so far? professor rigueur: absolutely. so there's definitely been head nod

jon huntsman tried that strategy in 2012 and finished in distant third place. in fact, a lot of people refer to john kasich as doing the full huntsman this year. fernando: struggling candidates will have just over two weeks to catch the front-runners before voters go to the polls for the nation's first primary. >> coming up next, cracking code words on the campaign trail. >> there has definitely been the person who lives here... has to solve problems as big as the world... and as small as your kitchen table. and now, the first lady who helped get healthcare for eight million kids... the senator who helped a city rise again... the secretary of state who stood up for america, and stared down hostile leaders around the world... is the one candidate for president who has everything it takes to do every part of the job... she'll never let anyone privatize social security and medicare... or shut down planned parenthood... she'll take on the gun lobby... finally get equal pay for women... and stop the republicans from ripping all our progress away. so on february first, stand up for hillary. because if you

jon huntsman tried that strategy in 2012 and finished in distant third place. in fact, a lot of people refer to john kasich as doing the full huntsman this year. fernando: struggling candidates will have just over two weeks to catch the front-runners before voters go to the polls for the nation' s first primary. >> coming up next, cracking code words on the campaign trail. >> there has definitely been the person who lives here... has to solve problems as big as the world... and as small as your kitchen table. that's the job. everyday. and now, the first lady who helped get healthcare for eight million kids... the senator who helped a city rise again... the secretary of state who stood up for america, and stared down hostile leaders around the world. is the one candidate for president who has every part of the job she'll never let anyone privatize social security and medicare... or shut down planned parenthood... she'll take on the gun lobby... finally get equal pay for women... and stop the republicans from ripping all our progress away. so on february ninth, stand up for hillary. because if you wan

to my point about politics -- jon huntsman never got over 3%. john kasich hasn't been over seven.he only to qualified people to run the show. what is addressing all the people anymore. just a bunch of bombast and. resource independents, outsiders go, the powers that be created that by speaking to americans as if they are idiots. >> host: would you look at huntsman in case it as establishment or outsiders or under the category altogether? >> caller: to the category of the show that they are clearly insiders but, but they are insiders with a cell as opposed to people who already k street and really that's what it's about. >> host: outsourced this time around, anybody in either camp getting your attention these days? >> caller: like the gentleman said earlier, sanders has been saying the same thing for 40 years but he's been at the establishment. he's been on all of our sunday show saying that. he's probably the biggest outsider in the camp. and trump for what i visit about trump, he's a pragmatic guy. he simply has to to get an office. he's out for a good person deep down inside and

huntsman. running as the antiof- conservative is not a good idea. you have seen jeb push p the conservative policies. john kasich attacked republicans on immigration and conservatives over global warming and stressed how he is a different candidate and reading in the interviews for people showing up in new hampshire counting on the independent vote and going to places where obama crushed mitt romney, he is attracting democrats that are supporting sanders or john kasich. they are not sure which one they will go with. >> thank you. >> fox news alert. u.s. stocks taking a nose dive as oil hits a new 12 year low. sinking price of crowd prompted another major selloff. the dow falling 478 points and standing at 15, 536. and it has fallen more than 1900 points total this year. the major u.s. indexes are down ten percent or more since the beginning of the year. we'll have a live report from the new york stock exchange coming up. >>> now this fox news alert. new details on the deadly a knack the university in northwestern pakistan. authorities say 18 students and two teachers were killed when the terrorist stormed

huntsman in or ainsley earhardt. >> good to have you here. i am heather childers. we begin with a fox news alert. the executioner executed. new the new magazine jihadi johnis in fact dead killed in a u.s. air trikes star gett strike tard a car he was in. he did the execution of james sotloff and james foley. killers proved they were ready to sacrifice that was dearest to them for the sake of responding to allah. >>> parents, students and teachers on edge after dozens of schools across 10 states are threatened with bombs and mass shootings. many received phone calls from a robotic caller. they forced the schools to lock down or evacuate. last month you may remember the entire los angeles school district closed over similar threa threats. >> was ooet tan couch taken to mexico against his will? that and agreeing to fight his deportation back to texas. couch and his mother were arrested last month. they took off