. >> rose: tell me who he is judicial that's john inlling who back in the early 70's still owns and operateszzeria called spirit of pizza province town and he's a major employer in time for my knuckle head friends and an essential figure in life and now respected elder spaceman in the town of province town. >> rose: are you better, can you see progress year by year because of a town of people you brought together in terms of how you present the material that you see. >> somebody asked me what other documentarians. we look at dramatic films, films we love, foreign films, old classic films with storytelling style, time line, cinematography, editing and we use those as reference points. >> rose: feature films. >> well for instance, it has a really interesting structure as well as its time line and keeps looping and folding back on itself. so we're often looking for an opportunity to use a device like that or style. >> rose: do you sit around and watch that and say look at this, we've got to see this. this is really interesting or does somebody just watch it and then take that lesson and incorpo