of times you can just look up auction catalogues, but then again you get something like john jay to benjamin franklinr to bring gone where there is probably only 10 in existence for its. so you fly by the seat of your pants. you figure it's pretty cool. well, people pay for it. gerri: what is cool is you are recently engaged. congratulations, that is wonderful news. and you are a big nerd and tell us about that. >> yes, i am a big book nerd. i've got a really cool book the other day and it basically means it was printed in the 1400s, the earliest books in print. those are really cool, i like to collect those and i also have a really big love or illuminated books, books that actually the pictures were hand painted because he basically didn't have the technology to put color in prints and books yet the one that's fascinating. come back again. we would love to have you back the one thank you so much for being on the show. >> next time i will come back to. gerri: well, we all know that in reality shows on television like american idol, which premieres tonight on fox, and the ex-factor, survivor, america'