john-john, saluted his father's casket as it went by. there it is. and carolyn kennedy who's next to her mother is now just recently sworn in as ambassador to japan. amazing how times have changed. i lived through that period. eric was, i guess, about 6 years old. brian, what's your -- what do you think the legacy of kennedy is today? and when you were growing up? did you think much about it? >> one of the first things i saw, "time" magazine news of the day, the first thing i saw was the three days, and it just talked about all the different scenes from that day. the other thing that sticks out to me is he was confident. he was rich. he was successful. but he just looked like a guy you wanted to hang out with. there was no arrogance there. he looks like a guy when you watch him, and i just listened to all these press conferences today, really comfortable in his own skin, but also knows he wasn't perfect. as they analyze his presidency and they see how close the election was in which he was victorious and they see how big he was about to win the next election. there was a guy in office that got better along the way. when he made a mistake like the bay of pigs, actually called his dad -- in reading "the patriot" and said what do we do? him and bobby on the phone. admit you're wrong. don't worry. you'll get over it. you'll learn from this. he did. this was the story of a president that got better. and admitted he was human. >> he also had, you know, followed up by the human missile crisis. i remember listening with my mother to the radio when kennedy came on and explained there were nuclear warheads 90 miles away. it was frightening. this was at the height of the cold war. kennedy was famous for his press conferences. there's tapes out about he's very funny. >> he had 50 -- >> he had 50, right. what was it about him as a communicator as you look back as a communicator now? >> i think one of the things i'm most impressed by, his political skill. it's not just what he said. it's how he made people feel. the assassination becomes that much more shocking and hurtful to the people that admired him so much because they made -- he made people feel good about america and feel good about one another. and that is the mark of a really great leader. that pulled people together in tumultuous times, as he was able to do, and i would also say, always impressed by jacqueline kennedy. when i was working at the white house, i got to take some tours of the east wing. at such a young age, she had a major impression on art and architecture and historical preservation. all across -- certainly fashion of course. just to be so poised and gracious at such a young age. then have to go through all of that tragedy. really impressive. >> that was interesting. when jack kennedy went to france with jackie, jackie spoke french fluently. kennedy came back and said i was the one who accompanied jackie kennedy to france. she did re-do the white house. she got a lot of art there. in comparison with the eisenhower years. eisenhower was 70 years old when he got out of office. here's this young, vibrant 43-year-old president. what about jackie? >> really a special human being certainly a historical and iconic figure for americans. so many people admired her, the way she conducted herself in the face of just that horrible tragedy, and to be there right when your husband is murdered. you can only imagine. other tragedies she suffered in life. i think there's a lot to learn about the human spirit. she was someone who was inspirational to so many americans. in fact, she continues to do so. you didn't have cable news, the 24 hour news cycle. but this was played, all the coverage of it, on network news. we became so close to the family and to the event. that's it's such -- it's a shared memmy for so many americans. >> let me ask you about this. the kennedy was -- one of his biggest problems when he campaigned, the first roman catholic -- would have been -- was the first roman catholic president. he had to go, in fact, to texas to tell a group of minister, protestants, that, in fact, the pope would not run the white house, but it was a serious problem then. and, i mean, religion has played less of a role -- >> absolutely. >> i think we think about it during the following years and all that, but back then, catholic was a big group, but they were not in the key states of the south. >> first catholic president. i watched this stuff. like you said, i think i was 8 months old when it happened so i don't remember any of it. but i watched this. you listen to these announcers and you hear the emotion. you go, what would -- i can't imagine how sad america could have been at that -- those moments. >> right. >> the world. jfk, rfk. the world, really, but also, sitting here watching the emotion. just an awful time. thank god it hasn't happened again. praise god it will never happen again, but how much hate must you have in your body to kill a president? >> for his ideology. >> a lot of us, including myself, held dallas responsible for that. kennedy went down to dallas to patch up rifts in the democratic party. the reason he was there, lyndon johnson asked him to go. and jackie kennedy rarely ever traveled with the president, domestically, very rarely, but she decided to go on this trip. it was a remarkable time. >> you don't blame dallas now? >> huh? >> you don't blame dallas today? >> not at all. dallas had a tribute today that was absolutely sensational. coming up, kmart and joe boxer gives us a jingle bell peep show. all that and more ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ i'm going hungry ♪ i'm going hungry ♪ hungry >>> welcome back everybody. three pieces of sound, three provocative moments in the news today. we've got men in briefs, colonel west on race, tyson and a bitten off ear. first off, kmart taking heat for airing this ad for men's underwear brand joe boxer. [ playing "jingle belling" ] >> so what do you think, delightful or distasteful? what are your thoughts? >> i have to say my mom brought this to my attention. three nights ago. in a text she said after the show, have you seen this kmart ad about joe boxer? i said, i don't know what you're talking about. she said, maybe it would be a good thing for your show. i don't know if she thought it was delightful or distasteful. i just know that my mom finally got a pick on a show. >> what do you think? >> might get me into kmart to by buy something. i know where there's a kmart, down in midtown. i might go. yeah. >> ladies first. >> i absolutely love it. i'm just wondering, what if i made an ad like that with bells and, you know, what would they say? >> oh, the visual. >> even with women! >> they would be -- it would be -- >> if it was women doing that, what would people say? thank you, bob. >> i tell you, i think it's kind of funny. whoever got that through marketing at kmart and got that on television i cannot believe they did that. >> quick thought? >> i think it works. it's boxers not briefs. i'm not comfortable in briefs. >> great. >> what? >> everyone wants to know right now, boxers or briefs. i'm boxer. >> we got to move on. >> what about you, bob? what about you, bob? >> nothing. >> oh! why did i ask that? >> follow-up question? >> oh, it's so close to me. is that true? >> all right. next up -- next up, tv newsers got a headline. knockout game. and specifically why the so-called black leaders in america have gone silent. >> how about jesse jackson and reverend sharpton, why are they silent? >> there's no profit for them. not political advantage. they don't care because they live off of the victimization. therefore, as long as you have black communities that see themselves at victims, that helps perpetuate their existence. now all of a sudden, if you jump in -- why don't they say anything in chicago about the black on black crime? because they don't have a point in that. it doesn't elevate them. that's why these guys should be totally irrelevant, not be listened to whatsoever. >> what do you think, honestly overlooked or cowardly ignored? start with you on this one, bob. >> i don't agree with -- that this is their business, but i do say this -- i've said this before. this is where i will agree with west, that is, why they are not speaking out about this. i don't get. >> quick thought. i get worried. i think we keep playing this too much. i think people are getting an idea of getting an idea, they just go out and try this and do this. my thing is, i don't expect them to. to me, it's clearly not a black or white issue. >> okay, i disagree. where is the justice department on this? eric holder if it were reversed? you'd be seeing the sharptons and jesse jacksons out there -- a lot of uproar. up in arms. >> you know what they say the reason? they're bored. that's why they're doing it. >> okay, we need to move on. by the way, we contacted al sharpton and tried to get ahold of jesse jackson. al sharpton said, listen, i'm going to address it. i asked him, can i call him. he said he's too busy. he said there was going to be a violinist who was going to denounce it tonight. whatever that is. >> what does that mean? >> i kid you not. >> that's okay. we've got to move on. >> the footlocker ad. quite the rage. it features mike tyson, evander holyfield, an ear and dennis rodman. watch. >> i'm sorry, evander. it's your ear. >> hello, mr. rodman, round trip to north korea? >> one way. >> one way? >> whew! >> so the foot locker ad, what do you think, funny or flop? kim? >> i like it but i like evander holyfield and mike tyson. they're actually really good friends now. they've made up over everything. i liked it. >> i didn't like it at all. >> i'm a boxing fan. >> i watched that fight, and it was disgusting, and to make it sort of a play for a christmas ad doesn't make any sense for me. >> we recently learned he was on cocaine during most of his fights. i think this is outrageous, and it gives money and glorified behavior. then we talk about why isn't the black community coming out and denouncing that behavior. and then these guys get to do disgusting things, stupid things, like going to north korea, screwing up our diplomacy, making an embarrassment of the united states around the world, and he gets money to do an ad like that? makes me sick's >> could i answer before dana? i had something -- i feel bad saying this. i like it. it shows we advanced. we're past it. evander holyfield and tyson were bitter enemies. now he's giving it back. >> also, mike tyson's cleaned up his act. yes. he talks about his sobriety. he confessed to everything. >> here's what i think. i think the ad was effective. it did what it was supposed to do. created attention. brought eyeballs to foot locker. at the end of the day, that's all they wanted. get eyeballs. >> wouldn't they want to bring feet to foot locker? >> got you. >> check this out, what's more annoying than sitting on a plane waiting to take off and someone next to you, let's say his name is bob, won't stop talking on his cell phone. all you want to do is take off. but now the fcc says they may let bob chatter away the whole darn flight. >> come on, bob. >> get ready for fights in the lighted aisles, folks. coming up, next. >>> interesting choice. i travel a bit and it drive also me nuts when people are constantly talking on their cell phone, especially when it's on speaker. we've all witnessed that annoying caller. this spoof sums it up. >> hello! no, i'm on the train! >> airplanes have long been cell phone-free zone, but that may change. the fcc is considering lifting its ban on phones in flight. is that a good idea? or the worst idea you have ever heard? let's start with commander bob. >> bravo. >> what do you think? >> i think it's absolutely the worst idea. i can't stand listening to them on the train. i can't -- their voices are screeching. they talk about stuff that just bothers me. all the way around. it's just like -- the idea of somebody sitting next to me talking on a cell phone. the only thing i can think to do is take the cell phone and, boom, bust the thing. >> what drives me crazy, when you hear people on the phone on public transportation like that going back and forth, people call up somebody and they're like, hey, what's up? yeah, it's good. yeah, i'll be home, regular time. no, nothing going on here. so there's no need to call. >> they got earphones on so they're talking like this. >> that's what you do. during the show. >> thank you. >> you yell one more thing in my ear all the time. >> forget one more thing. sometimes we have to go to tampa, d.c., and all you want to do sometimes is sleep, but there's one guy who just wants to talk the whole -- >> bob. >> bob. >> the reason i talked from tampa on the way back is you were not exactly in the best shape, if you remember. >> you wouldn't stop talking. >> i was trying to wake you up. >> i have a picture of you sleeping and bob is still talking. >> the truth behind that whole story is andrea was next to you originally. we changed seats. she's like, i just want to sleep. and then you went and talked anderson cooper's ear off. he was on the plane. >> i was just trying to keep him awake in case -- >> can we get back on topic because if you think government was supposed to be involved in anything, maybe keep the quiet zone on an airplane, isn't that the place where the government -- sacred? >> we've been over this, you cannot stop technology. we finally managed a way to use telephones on a plane. we have to give people that opportunity. i'm not looking forward to. remember, amtrak has a quiet car. why don't we have a quiet section of the plane. it costs more money. >> how you going to find a quiet section -- >> you put up soundproof areas. the same ones they have in audio booths. >> i have a theory, this is a ploy for the airlines to make more money. you know how? because all of a sudden you're going to have quiet flights and you're going -- they're going to be x-amount more expensive and you're going to be willing to pay that amount so you don't have to sit next to jackass guy who is making phone calls about -- like yelling at his assistant -- >> -- edge of the bathrooms because those bathrooms are only good for two things. the mile high club and doing cocaine. >> -- how to use their phone -- >> i think they're -- it is a ploy to make more money. in order to access, you have to go through the airline and they're going to charge you to do that. >> oh, my gosh, if i'm on a flight and someone's on their phone, i will lose my -- >> all that cell phone talking and still no free peanuts. >> charge to do that? >> absolutely. >> the worst is gum chewing. talk on the phone, i don't want to hear people chewing gum. >> how about people talking into their phone like this. like why can't just put it next to your ear? >> what i should do is i should become a best-selling author by writing about cell phone etiquette. i'm going to work on that over the weekend. >> okay! it's going to be a page turner. >>> okay, if jfk were alive today, would he be considered a democrat or a republican? we've got tape of him that just might make you wonder as "the five" continues our tribute to the late president on this day of remembrance, up next. >>> welcome back to "the five." that was quick. this on his 50th year anniversary. president kennedy, as you know was a democrat or was he? >> it is a paradoxical truth, that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. >> incredible, right? >> i spoke to charles krauthammer this morning on "fox and friends" who's really smart, and he thinks the president would be considered a conservative in today's america. >> jfk, in his inaugural address, he pledged we will bear any burden in the defense of liberty. he was a very strong anti-communist like truman and that tradition of the democrats being really tough on the soviets, strong for national defense, that withered away after the vietnam war. he would have been called republican or conservative on foreign affairs. >> bob, you were just 12, but you studied the presidency. what did you think? >> i think the times were at the height of the cold war. let's remember that almost 50% of the country voted against kennedy. they thought he was too liberal. so in the times for then he was a jobs democrat, is what i think he was. >> he cut taxes. >> i believe the call of the question was today would he be considered a democrat or a republican? >> i think he would be considered a conservative one based on foreign policy being vehemently anti-communist, the first commitment to u.s. troops to vietnam. established the green berets. a strong position in foreign policy and i think economically, there's a lot of similarity in terms of -- >> but also the peace corps. right? >> yeah. >> eric, what do you think? >> i think he would be a dino, democrat in name only. he lowered tax rates for individual income taxes, also learned something from greg yesterday that he was pro life. i didn't know that. i know a lot of catholics got mad at me because they didn't realize he was a pro life catholic. they were upset. sorry. apologize. and anti-communist. these are all kind of -- >> it means no -- >> it unified the country. >> there's nobody pro communist now. >> look at ted kennedy. how did he come out so liberal? he wouldn't be caught of saying we got to cut taxes. even in the early 1960s. >> ted kennedy? >> yes. >> think about the -- to me, it doesn't matter what party they're from. if they have good policy. ted kennedy, in the bush administration becomes a champion of education reform and works with the president to get that done. i think that good policy trumps politics. >> what about personal responsibility? bob? >> asking that question is like asking what would howard taft have been like? what would he have been like 50 years later? it's apples and oranges. >> we're just speculating. >> okay. we don't want him to get upset. >> he would be a conservative. >> just it's very -- >> he wouldn't be a republican. who knows? 50 years from now, barack obama may not seem like a socialist whatsoever. >> gosh, i hope not. i won't be living in that -- >> can anyone get elected by saying don't ask what you can do for your country. don't ask what you can do -- you know what i'm saying. >> not just what kennedy said. it's how he made people feel. >> right. >> you can get elected by providing people with a good feeling if you can replicate that, yes, you can get elected. >> personal responsibility with what you can do for your country. not what your country can do for you? >> yes. and let's remember on the tax thing, he talked about raising revenues, which he did. >> meanwhile, eight minutes before the top of the hour, coming up next, one more thing. >>> it's time now for one more >>> it's time now for one more thing. we want to start this program off highlighting the tornadoes and the people suffering in the midwest and as many of us get ready to celebrate thanksgiving, let's not forget about the people in the midwest, the massive tornado damage that they have suffered. there are a few places you can make donations to help those in need. in particular, the red cross doing a tremendous amount of work. salvation army and friends for disaster relief. so as you give thanks for the many blessings for you and your family, remember those that are in dire need during this time. >> very good. >> very good. >> okay. tomorrow morning's cashing in 11:30 a.m. dvr or pull up a chair. grab a cup of coffee. it's a good one tomorrow. huge show. we take a part, dismantle, the build -- they call it the affordable care act. we want to know why it's called the affordable care act when no one can afford the darn thing. so we're going to look into a conservative, libertarian and wall-to-wall capitalism. cashing in. >> all right. and dana? >> i am going to be pulling up a chair with maybe a glass of wine because tomorrow night kimberly guilfoyle is part of fox files and interviewing bethenney frankel, reality tv star, business mogul. i think we have a clip. >> how are you? >> reporter: i sat down with bethenny in the signature red room. >> first of all, did you ever think your name would be like this in a daytime talk show along with the likes of oprah and ellen. it's pretty incredible accomplishment. >> it is incredible. i'm not drinking my own kool-aid. >> reporter: so what makes bethenny difference in terms of your talk show? >> what makes it different is i'm different and i'm complicated like many women. >> all right. you can watch that saturday, tomorrow night. that's 10:00 p.m. and on sunday at 9:00 p.m. in case you missed it. >> you were good in those interviews. >> thank you. we had a good time together. >> is she cool? >> sure was. >> it's an interesting interview. i think you're going to like it. fascinating. she's a winner. >> complicated. >> women are complicated. >>> back to johnennedy as you all probably know, challenged the united states to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade in the 1960s. this was after the soviet union got in front of the united states in launching a satellite and then the first man in orbit was a soviet. so let's go to the sot when kennedy announced the space program. >> we choose to go to the moon. we choose to go to the moon. [ applause ] we choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy but because they are hard. >> you know, i think that encapsulates a lot of john kennedy. i mean, the hard things, the big things are tough to do. i think he recognized that and challenged people who went along with him. >> i think that's his most almost compelling comment, that everyone points to the other one. ask not what you can do -- >> exactly. not -- >> that one i like. >> this is the highlight of my week right now. charles krauthammer made his way into our studio today. he gave us a half hour. he's holding